"Sitting by the stream
Corn encrusted poo floats by
Bay Area Dave"
(this haiku by c. potts is da bombe)
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
seems YOUR writer has resorted to re-runs. Just how much
mileage did he expect from a few kernels of corn, Tommy-Boy?
Keeter's got him a new writer; now it's time for you to
pony up and get some new talent. The current writer is way
past his prime.
Tom Watson wrote:
Living solely for happiness - avarice - is wrong. Not in the moral sense -
many great things have been achieved through greed. I am speaking here not
only of the "base" desires that led to the invention of fire, but more
refined desires, such as the desire for freedom, the desire for knowledge,
even the desire for higher intelligence. The only reason to do a thing is
because it is right. There is no end which we ought to pursue even if we
knew it to be wrong. Living for happiness is wrong in the logical sense -
whether avarice walks paths that are noble or mean, it is a sign of a
disorganized philosophy. Goals have to be justified.
The second theory might be called "confusion" - roughly, the belief that we
can't really be certain what's going on, because the human species isn't
smart enough to Figure It All Out. Confusion is the simplest of all
philosophies, and the most durable. It is the one that assumes the least;
by Occam's Razor, the strongest. Confusion is the underpinning of altruism
and the last refuge of a Singularitarian under fire. Avarice shades into
confusion through the hope that a superintelligence will explain things to
you; confusion shades into altruism through the hopes that a
superintelligence will know and do, whether or not it chooses to explain.
Altruism supplies direction. Altruism can provide a full, logical
justification for a course of action. The price of that is the loss of
simplicity. Only altruism qualifies as a genuine Meaning of Life Altruism
is the simplest explanation that relates choices to reality; confusion is
the simplest explanation that relates choices to mind.
You should get up in the morning because you will make the Universe a better
place. Or rather, you will make it more likely that humanity's successors
will make it a better place. Same cause-and-effect relation; the length of
the chain of events doesn't matter.
Oh wait - you're another WebTV user?
Sorry. Here's yours:
I love it.
Except some web tv users are intelligent. Course that's probably what the
Martians said when they first landed on earth: Some of them are sentient. Then
they took a few of our cats and left.
"The lust of avarice as so totally seized upon mankind that their wealth seems
rather to possess them than they possess their wealth." Pliny
Well, mttt, you got me. I use webtv by choice, while sitting six feet
from my computer. I can skim through the latest 1500 posts to this NG in
a matter of minutes. Can you do that? You do a lot of talking to show
that you are also a man (?) of word.
Sorry, Dave. Didn't get very far myself. It was like he was doing the
spray paint in a paper bag thing. How's the weather? Lived 16 years in
Sebastopol. Enjoyed the predictable weather, and remember at one time
(it's been a while) buying 8 foot redwood 2x4s at three for a dollar.
John, the weather is GREAT! It's been in the 80's and 90's
lately. Several days of hot weather broke all time records
about 2 weeks ago.
I lived in Novato and Petaluma (Chickentuma <g>) back in the
70's. What a great area of the Bay Area. If I could afford
it, I'd move back up there.
Three for a dollar? That's before I bought any! :)
Where are you at now?
Hey Dave, in Arkansas now, surrounded by pine and red oak. Used to fly
in and out of the old Marin Co. (grass) and new airport, also Petaluma,
Santa Rosa and all the Bay area airports, and seaplanes at Sausalito.
Lots of fun but all good things must come to an end.
Re: this NG. Remember, you are swimming with sharks.
John, I never flew a seaplane. Never even BEEN in a
seaplane. All my flying was done out of Reid Hillview and
San Jose Airport. and I did a few cross wind landings at a
tiny airfield south of San Jose. Can't remember it's name.
No control tower, potholes everywhere and WINDY as hell.
thanks for the reminder. :)
Last post from me on this subject. Have you been here long? There's a long
running, fairly amusing thread about WebTV users. Kind'a like we used to
poke fun @ AO Lusers. Second, your post and mine were quite similar in that
neither added any value to the 'net. I just used up a few more bytes on a
sector on a hard drive. Not sure what enticed you into a reply on this
thread, especially a "get a life" rejoinder that I haven't heard in quite
some time. Third, I don't know whether I'm able (capable) of skimming
through 1500 posts in a matter of minutes but I'm pretty sure I don't want
the ability. Fourth, when UA100, TW or CS post, I *always* read them, and I
usually enjoy them. Finally, are you unsure of the spelling of "man" or are
you wondering about whether I have 2 X's or an XY pair? [ Can't keep
"gender" and "sex" straight, so I prefer to drop [to] the genes. ]
Having nothing better to do this morning after getting ready for church,
I just got curious, so spent a little *giggle* time. Mr. Thumbs apparently
has made a total of 16 posts to Usenet in the last 5 yr., first to
alt.homerepair, and then to the wRECk, not prolific in either arena.
However, his last 4 posts have been in the last week or so, 1 to
congratulate someone on their shop, the other 3 to rant & rave about you,
TW, other regulars on the group, or what he calls the "in" crowd, and
apparently to commiserate with BAD. Seems like Thumbs, BAD, the Dizum dodo
and some others, all lumped into TWSRUN, are about the same caliber people
we used to put up with in CB radio. They figured they could spew whatever
filth they felt like because they were hiding behind the anonymity of the
microphone, while the new ones think they can hide behind the anonymity of
I don't remember right this instant exactly who said what, BUT - - there
were comments made about people being on the public tit, as if anyone using
the 'net has no job or life otherwise. WRONG!!! There are some on the wRECk
who are retired, disabled, etc., but for the one who was complaining about
them living off *his* paycheck, just remember something - most of those you
seem to hold in such disdain (including me) have had long productive
careers, and worked damned hard all our lives! When you've expended the time
& effort & experience we have, then you will have the right to complain
about how we live, until then, just SHUT UP!
I find it difficult to believe any of them have ever read Davy Eisan's
mini-FAQ about our group being like a bunch of guys gathered around the
coffee pot BSing about ww'ing and whatever else comes to mind. We joke, pick
on each other, pick on newbies, make them *work* a little to be accepted,
but still try to answer their questions. Occasionally, in ANY group, someone
will show up who is just an irritating A**HOLE, who for some reason cannot
seem to get along with anyone, who continually spouts inane, assinine
blather that does nothing except aggravate people. Sometimes these people
are easily identified TROLLS, other times they are as above, irritating
A**HOLES, which in some ways are harder to put up with than trolls, because
they don't quite fit the troll mold, but display a lot of the same
characteristics, yet you want to try and be kind to them, until you've been
s**t on enough times that you don't care any more, then they join the
killfile or TWSRUN.
Well, I think I've wasted enough webspace for today. Rant/off.
The first myth of management is that management exists.
There are people who are disabled and who woodwork and who post. I guess they
draw checks of some kind or another--SSI? What the hell does Mr. Thumbs think
they should do? Shut up and die? I work full time (well, sort of: this year,
I've been going something like 60-70 hours a week to repair damage to my
business caused by my attempt to "go corporate"), so his insistance that we
"get a life" finds me without the time to look for one.
His telling Tom to act like a pro is laughable. This guy should know some of
the pro woodworkers I've known! Tom is super mild, a really sweet guy (Jaysus,
am I going to catch it for that one!).
Yeah, and that's one of the best parts of this NG. Anyone who is truly
interested in woodworking is welcome to become one of the "regulars".
Regardless of what Mr. Thumb thinks, there is no absolute requirement that they
be on the "public tit". A full-time job is acceptable. But it is also not
demanded. Part-time works. Housewives and househusbands are also welcome. Is
househusbands one word?
My contribution to wasted web space.
"In our civilization, and under our republican form of government, intelligence
is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of
office." Ambrose Bierce
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