Band Saw boxes

[Donna]

Hi, I'm new to the group- didn't even know there was such a thing as Google Groups until today. I like to make band saw boxes, and I'm writing a book for Sterling Publishing on the subject. I'm looking for a couple more boxes to be featured in the 'boxes for inspiration' pages. They must be your own design and well done. I'll need some good pictures, and I will send details to anyone who is interested. Please contact me at [e-mail] if you have something appropriate. Send a small file or two (50K)of your boxes. Thanks, Donna

[Donna]

[e-mail]

[Donna]

Don't know why the addy was truncated. [e-mail] Donna

[Donna]

lets try to fool the computer- delta-omega-nu-phi-beta-kappa then the rest good grief Donna

[JGS]

[Andy Dingley]

Because you're using Google Groups.

Except that you're not. You're actually using "Usenet newsgroups" (Google can tell you the rest). These are a worldwide and distributed network of connected news servers. There's no one place that Usenet is located.

The best way to access Usenet is through a client program like Agent (free trial at

You can even use Outlook for this, but it's not very good. You'll need an account on a news server too. Your ISP might have a (usually poor) one, you can use a free service like the one in Berlin, or you can pay somwhere like Supernews for a top-end service.

Usenet is also gatewayed to the web. This used to be done by DejaNews, then bought by Google, but there are others too. Google Groups also maintains a historical archive for 20 years of past postings - very useful.

Recently though, Google have started to Be Evil. They now hide email addresses in usenet postings - including yours. They all came through, but Google presumably hid them from you reading them.

[damian penney]

They aren't being evil at all, they are doing you a favor and they do it to stop the spammers from scraping email addresses from usenet postings. Just write the email address as myname at gmail dot com i think even myname @ gmail .com would do the trick. Also Google Groups is a great interface to Usenet, so welcome to the fray Donna.

[s2s]

I think they're munging the email address when you view it on google, but not when you view it with a newsreader, so your email address is just as vulnerable as it ever was. The spammers have been harvesting from newsgroups for a lot longer than google's been around.

As to whether Google is a great interface - that depends on who you are, I guess. In my case it's my absolute last choice. If I can read usenet any other way, I do. Today, I can't. :-)

[Andy Dingley]

So how does this stop spammers ? Usenet's an open system - any unmunged address on Usenet is already getting hammered.

I hope they're not being Evil, but I suspect there's a revenue model in the offing.

[Donna]

Thanks for the recommendation, JGS; I'll do that. Oops- went there and had a tough time finding anything specific to band saw boxes. Had to search on specific issues and then got every post. That is not too helpful. What am I doing wrong? Is there a location for pictures- or- is there a way to show just posts relating to specific topics? And thanks to the rest of you for clarifying the addy problem. I guess, then, that there are no archives in this group? Donna

[damian penney]

Right, but for newbies like Donna munging it prevents it from ever getting on usenet to begin with. You can change the display name to whatever you like, I use damian penney but it could just as easily be the actual email address.

[damian penney]

Okay, I didn't know it was mungless when viewed outside of Google. If that's the case beats me.