LPNs and community colleges have 2 year degrees, hospitals (if you can
find one still doing it) give 3 year degrees, colleges give 4 year
degrees unless you already have a degree, in which case the extra is 17
months to 2 years. The 4 years gets you a Bachelors of Science in
Dave in Fairfax (RN, BSN)
daveldr at att dot net
It depends on which state is issuing the license. In New York State the minimum
score is 80%, which is one reason the NYS license is recognized throughout the
country. According to my daughter, who has taken the test twice, the NCLEX test
is computerized, zeros in on you weakest area and hammers you.
Buffalo, NY - USA
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Or last in his class at West Point?
And that's a fact.
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It's also not accurate. The nursing board exam is and has been for the
last several years adaptive. The exact number of questions asked and the
number required as well as their relative difficulty varies for each test
taker. The test "adapts to your individual responses in an effort to
judge competancy. The actual minimum scores are not published.
Your experience is that most nurses are LPNs? Do you live in a nursing home?
I have always worked in a hospital setting (been a RN since 1992). While our
LPNs are grandfathered, they don't seem to be hiring any more. We have two of
them on my unit. Of course, we also have about 34 others who are all RNs.
As for educational preparation, I have an associates degree in nursing (ADN).
Maybe half of my peers at work have the same. I earned it in two years. BSNs
generally spend the first two years leaning liberal arts stuff, then start with
the clinical nursing curriculum during their third year, completing it all in
their fourth year.
Irregardless of how one earns a degree in nursing, we all take the same national
exam. These days it's all computerized. There are not different scores
acceptable for different states. You either pass the NCLEX or you don't. The
days of different scores required in different states ended before I became a
nurse. My mother remembers those days though... but then again she's 80 and
remembers when Wyatt Earp died.
Once you pass, you can apply for licensure to individual states. One of the
Dakotas requires a BSN to go along with the NCLEX but as far as I know that's
the only one. Several states belong to the Nursing Compact, where a license
from one can be used in any of the others (similar to a NY driver's license
being acceptable to drive in Connecticut). Most of the states require their own
license for practice. If you move from another state then it's just a formality
to get that state's license (requiring 2-3 weeks of wating and a check).
Generally speaking, a license from any one state will qualify you for a license
in any other state.
They pay us the same no matter how we were prepared for the NCLEX. I've heard
of places that might pay 25 cents per hour more for a BSN but I've never worked
in one. Work experience (as a RN) has much more influence on what rate you're
paid. I'm making roughly double what I did when I first graduated now.
As for demand.... man, it's a seller's market these days, and the nurses are
what's selling. 3-10 thousand dollar sign-on bonuses are the rule in my neck of
the woods. We don't grow on trees any more, though the jobs sure do.
Come to the northeast. I have several nurse acquaintances that are
almost to the point of being able to fill in their own numbers on the
One of them works as a Cardiac Care nurse, assisting procedures like
angioplasty, for a staffing company. He works 3-6 month temp
assignments, takes 3 months off to fly his r/c planes, and moves on to
another, nicely compensated, assignment.
On 4 Apr 2004 18:25:10 -0700, email@example.com (Mutt) wrote:
My college sweetheart graduated the same time I did. I started out
making more money as a computer programmer than she did as a
registered nurse. But in the end, she wins, and I'm out of a job for
months and months.
It's really annoying to have my mailbox filled by places that want to
pay me to come work for them. %-) And the sign on bonuses are
insulting, $3-5K. Really am sorry about your being out of work
Phisherman. I was talking to Silvan about a career change to PT or
Radiology, they take 2 years and pay OK to start.
Dave in Fairfax
daveldr at att dot net
Heh. When we had our fire last year and lived in temp housing a few months, the
place next to ours had a young husband and wife, with the wife a radiology
tech, IIRC. She was high enough up the training scale to be doing contract work
through an agency. They moved every year or two according to job availability.
The guy worked at relatively low pay construction and rode off-road
motorcycles, which is what he enjoys, while the wife worked at a local hospital
at a rate that probably pushed 100K a year, but that also included that temp
housing (2 bedroom full furnished and equipped apartment, with maid service)
and some other bennies. I know for a fact that the housing goes for at least
$1400 a month (but that includes local telephone bill, utilities, heat, even
the detergent for the dishwasher and the washing machine. It's rough, though:
you have to share the washing machine and dryer with the apartment next door).
It pays OK. To start.
"It is not strange... to mistake change for progress." Millard Fillmore
Even *if* he were getting 40 hours a week, that's only about $32K a
year. Even at that, the suits wouldn't get out of bed.
Same as above, about $25K. You called these "former tradesmen who are
reasonably compensated for their knowledge of the trades"? We'll have
to agree to disagree on this one.
People need to start referring to earnings in amount/year to really get
a better basis for comparisons.
Your claim was that the employees of HD/Lowes earned minimum
wage, which is virtually Always expressed in dollars per
Now that you've been shown to have your head up your ass
and generally have no idea what you're talking about, you're
trying to nuance your claim by saying it's no longer an
issue of minimum wage, but a comparison to upper management
(which is a completely specious argument, and you Know it).
Nice try. No dice.
Be a nice Liberal and crawl back into your hole.
In place of a reasoned, thought-out response, you spew out NOTHING but
insults and you say that I have no idea. You obviously have *no**ideas* at all to share.
I guess this NG had to have a pissant like you who basks in the
anonymity and invulnerability that USENET provides for mental midgets.
BTW, I think there's a village looking for you.
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