I've had this happen with one of my SawStops. It misfired twice in a
week period. SawStop sent me free replacement cartridges and some
filters to put around one of the control cables in the saw. With the
filters in place I have not had a misfire since (4 months).
Yeah... :~) Now I have heard of this problem. I did not doubt that there
could be a problem and I am sure there are other out there with the same
Did you see my reference of the watch problem back in the 60's in an earlier
post in this thread? Joe the OP has found that out of the 10 people that
use this saw that the misfire only happens to one person. He seems to
think it is a digital watch problem. How coincidental is that???
I don't own a saw stop, nor will I in the foreseeable future. I just
want to show some appreciation for all you 'beta' testers out there
helping to mature the technology. I think it's a great idea, and if it
can be proven to not misfire 99.9999 percent of the time, I would
certainly get one on my next table saw, 100 years from now.
there's a lot of things that effective. that's only about 30 seconds/year of
downtime. i've seen lots of computers do that easily. of course, i work for
http://stratus.com . most common household objects are effective in that
range, lots are more effective.
You've converted 99.9999% into a few seconds of time as balanced against a
year. To me being effective means how many times has it been used and
maintained that effectiveness.
And face it, we're talking about a Sawstop which is considerably more
complicated than anything you'd label as uncomplicated machinery. If it fell
into that category, my guess is that it would have been on the market years
No offense meant, Upscale, but in the context we're talking here, I think
the possibility that my tablesaw will eat my tablesaw blade is about .0001
percent. I can't prove it but I'm operating on that assumption.
If I thought the percentage was higher, I think I'd sell my tablesaw.
With all due respect. 99.9999% quality says that out of one million
tries, you get 1 catastrophic (on the order of a sawstop misfire)
failure, not one in ten-thousand as you state. Right now, I NEVER,
EVER expect my current tablesaw to suddenly stop and mangle it's own
blade and be generally unavailable for an uncertain amount of time.
With the current SAWSTOP I am certain the chances are much better than
1 in a million of a misfire.
I consider myself a modestly careful woodworker. If I get that funny
feeling in my gut. I will stop and take an extra couple of hours to
make a jig for safety sake. I value my digits more than my time,
because my real job requires them, and I don't have Lloyds insurance to
feed my family if I can't work.
What I am saying is that I am willing to go from NEVER EVER, to perhaps
1 chance in a million of having a mangled blade. That is all
contingent that this thing truely does what it implies it will do. I
don't think it has been tested on live fingers, in every possible
working condition (only on chickens and hotdogs). It's certainly not as
hard as testing nukes, but it's another one of those inventions you
can't really truely 'test' in the lab (at least without human rights
I also question the ethics of an inventer who goes from: "this
technology will save your fingers", to: "the goverment needs to mandate
this because I say it's safe".
Wow, I'm suspected of being a troll. That's a first for me...
I saw the sawstop demoed at the local woodworking expo. Some wiseguy in
the audience suggested that the exibitor use his finger. He refused but
said that the inventor does indeed demo it with his finger.
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