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When the govt loses revenue to smugglers. They talk about "making up for the shortfall". However, when the common citizen has his taxes raised, his take home pay is reduced. Why don't politicians talk about "making up for the shortfall" in personal take home pay?

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Stormin Mormon
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Cool. Go black market go!

Reply to
CW

That "75% increase" sounds worse than saying the state income tax will rise from something like 3.2% to 5.5%. Doesn't it now? ...particularly when you're trying to tar a specific political party.

A pack of cigarettes costs, what, $10.80 in New York? Most of that is taxes, too.

If you haven't already, this would be a good time to stop smoking.

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Steve

Obviously, you've not been paying attention for the last twenty or thirty years.

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Steve

The 75% increase is from 3% to 5.25%.

Only 10 states have a lower tax rate on the median income than Illinois and eight of them don't have any income tax.

We should have gone to 3.25% ten years ago. We wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

Paul K. Dickman

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Paul K. Dickman

You should have fired a bunch of bureaucrats ten years ago. As long as there is unstolen money in the hands fo the people, the size of government will increase. Its growth will cease only when it collapses under its own weight.

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J. Clarke

I bought a Bosch Multi-X from Lowes for $129 on Black Friday, with a free 12V driver. Amazon wanted $179 for the Multi-X alone. I don't believe anyone ever said that Amazon was *always* the cheapest. They did beat the crap out of everyone else on my Unisaw, though.

Again, not surprising. Likely from a different e-tailer, through Amazon.

Software isn't perfect. Who wudda thunk.

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krw

It is what it is. Typical liberal trying to play down a tax increase. Doesn't matter, typical American doesn't know what percent means anyway.

Sounds like a little kid when he gets cought doing something wrong. "But he's doing it to". I'll tell you the same as any other little kid. Just because he's is doing something wrong doesn't make it OK for you to do it.

Very true but if you value your freedom, you will buy them any way...from the black market.

Reply to
CW

Sure have. My uncle got busted running cigarettes in the mid 70s. It hasn't reached the level it needs to yet. Go smugglers.

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CW

I hope I'm on the jury.

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krw

The bureaucrats are the least of our problem, a legislautre dominated by one ego manical politician is at the top of the list. They will pass anything and not pay for it. Our past impeached governer spent and invested with friends.

Ah yes the home of Honest Abe.

Mark

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Markem

Either way sounds bad. Remember, I'm in a state that doesn't HAVE an income tax. Then, too, we don't have a lot of state services - such as psychological diagnosis and treatment for your dog. We're also a Right to Work (Scab) state.

Also, percentages, by themselves, are misleading. Put another way, if your state income tax in Illinois was $1,000 last year, it'll be $1,750.00 next year.

That said, Illinois has a lot going from it; mostly rich people.

Tell you who I feel sorry for: Boeing. A couple of years ago they moved their corporate headquarters from Seattle to protest the high taxes in Washington state. They moved to Chicago.

The Dominican Republic is looking mighty good...

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HeyBub

So what will you die of instead?

The gambler's fallacy, that playing the odds gives you control.

You're still going to die.

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J. Clarke

YOU may never know.

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Josepi

Never know what? That you're going to die? You are, trust me on this.

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J. Clarke

Based on history that would be true.

You are attempting to predict the future so "YOU may never know"

In article , snipped-for-privacy@easynews.calm says... YOU may never know.

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Josepi

It is true that I may never know with certainty that you have died. However that you _will_ die is the only thing more certain than that you will be required to pay taxes.

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J. Clarke

Howcome, even though all those religions tout "eternal life," everybody dies anyway?

Thanks, Rich

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Rich Grise

I've also seen a 35 year old man in good shape have a heart attack thanks to smoking for the previous 20 years.

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Tom Del Rosso

I once had a next-door neighbor (Well, actually, down the hall in the apt. building) who was 35 and looked like an iron-pumper (very fit and buff) who never smoked a day in his life. He also dropped dead of a heart attack.

Who's to blame for that?

I'm 61 3/4 (62 next March) and have been a smoker since I was about 19; at my last checkup, I was found to be essentially as healthy as a horse.

Admittedly, I get a little winded when I pump my bike uphill for a mile or two, but I stop, have a smoke, and don't feel winded any more.

But the Church of Antismokerism is really stepping up their attacks - I think it's because they're afraid of being supplanted by the Church of Warmingism as the National Religion.

Thanks, Rich

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Rich Grise

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