Windfarm site income chart

Something like this?

It wouldn't surprise me if it's been taken down because the numbers contradict all the claims about how cheap wind generation is. If that's the case, why is it still so heavily subsidised?

I see that with the rising price of energy, exceeding the contract for difference price agreed between govt and generator for individual sites, renewable electricity generators are actually paying the govt now.

These wind farms and to some extent Solar farms are not totally green even when you take the resources they use out of the equation. The problem is clustering a lot of turbines together creates turbulance upwind of them. Often this can change the local climate, and also is quite a large hazard to wild birds as well. The turbulence tends to reduce the output of generators and hence you do not get the advertised power. As for making a profit, well unfortunately that is what you get when every tier of the electrical supply chain needs to make money to buy new kit and fix the old ons. That age old argument of is it best run by the state so they can reinvest the profits, but it seems large organisations tend to be very inefficient as well. If you have a radical answer then we are all ears. Brian

In message <sto58s$ran$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, "Brian Gaff (Sofa)" snipped-for-privacy@blueyonder.co.uk> writes

Some of the support payment amounts make Hinkley look cheap at £92.50

I think utilities such as water, electricity, gas, sewage should have remained in state ownership and I voted for Maggie!

The costs of connecting and supplying outlying loads will always burden profits.

The surge in energy prices could make this a good time to sell nuclear to the GP now that Russia is only threatening a conventional war.

Brian, the turbulence is downwind.

The main reason you don't get the advertised power is that often the wind doesn't blow.

Andy

Secondary reasons are that they are too close together, and that they are in general mostly broken.

Found this - not what I was searching for but interesting nevertheless

Gordon Hughes is a long-standing critic of wind power and the arguments used to justify its installation.