Wind turbines used to absorb a power surplus?

Mar 18, 2023 Last reply: 3 years ago 762 Replies

I see no problem in them drawing power to stabilise the grid. You could have massive expensive batteries using the rare element Lithium we need for cars, you could flood huge valleys to make pumped storage, or you could just live with a bit of waste.

Geared can still be synchronous. Gears take power both ways, think engine braking in a car.

An inverter can easily stabilise the frequency, it just pushes it towards where it should be.

The correct term here is maildragon.

Pissing her off wouldn't be wise since

Told you so.

On the other hand, none of this crap is needed with a nuclear power station sited close to where demand is that runs 95% of the time at more or less fuel power with a lightweight grid uses to balance, not to transfer nation sized chunks of power in a wholly vulnerable to the Russians sort of way, Nogas backup. No need for Russia No massive interconnectors. No need for France or Germany. No need for batteries. No need for heatumps. Eletcricity would be cheap enough to just use an electric boiler. No need for any renewable energy whatsoever. Electricity at 10p a unit max.

THAT is what the Greens and other politicians and above all their RUSSIAN masters are afraid of.

Resilient national energy supplies that don't depend on Russia. Militaries that dont run on gender bent soldiers and fairy farts.

Why are you supporting them?

No insulation is perfect. My home is large.

It is already dangerous to me to go much below 16°C.

My home without heat? - sub zero certainly,. I was brought up in a home with no heat essentially.

It was hell. Ice in the windows INSIDE.

There is a theory that plant growth is limited by a shortage of one of many elements. Water, CO2, nitrogen, phosphorus, temparture, sunlight etc etc.

Looks like they're charging US for the meters, not the green tax, they put my f****ng standing charge up only 8 days after the installation! Coincidence? I don't think so.

Daily standing charge 50.67p to 61.67p Unit price 33.90p/kWh to 32.91p/kWh

Or.... too many people are using less power, and they want to get the same money, so they put it on the standing charge so you pay them for not using any power!

So are those boilers we discussed. As you note, insulation does not fix everything. Thanks for making my point.

I have much simpler logging method. A sheet of A4 next to the meter and a biro. I write down the reading at about the same time on the last and first day of the month and a few times during the month.

Of course they are charging YOU !. And you will be paying those excessive standing charges long, long after the cost of the 'free' smart meter installation has been covered.

And one reason for the hike in standing charges was to pay 'compo' to all those switchers whose minnow supplier went t*ts up and took their credit with them. All agreed by Ofgem.

Much of the anthracite mined in South Wales (Welsh Steam Coal) was reserved for use by the Royal Navy, back in Dreadnought days

Co2 will promote crops for nitrogen fixation from the air.

You also get the same functionality for gas - assuming that you have mains gas and use it.

Our household utilities (electricity, gas, water, trash collection) are. Our phone and internet are not. Cable TV is a regulated monopoly here but streaming is replacing it.

Enron wasn't a regulated monopoly of the sort that supplies our utilities.

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Our utilities are closely regulated and allowed to make a profit based on capital investment and actual expenses and revenue. Some utilities generate power but some, especially small ones, purchase it from the grid. It seems to work pretty well.

That's a feature.

Power and wealth seem, long-term, to make people into statists. They want to control everything. Of course, nobody understands everything but that doesn't stop them.

Yep. If those crops are planted. The world runs on rice, wheat, and corn, none of which fix nitrogen.

Unless you want to radically up _your_ consumption of tofu...

It's worth mentioning that not every jurisdiction in the U.S. regulates utilities in the same way. Some are strict; others are lax. Look at Texas.

My trash collection, strictly speaking, isn't a utility. I pay the township where I live a monthly fee and they contract with a commercial waste hauler. I imagine I get a price break compared with contracting on my own, since the township can guarantee almost 16,000 households as customers (minus apartment dwellers and condos and perhaps some other types of housing).

There are areas where cable TV isn't a monopoly. IIRC my mother can choose between two providers. Ok, not far from a monopoly, but there's still a tiny bit of competition.

An awful lot of people get their Internet connection via those regulated monopoly cable providers.

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Republic ran a cozy little protected monopoly for 14 years. They also operate the landfill, where they charge $46 for a pickup load of trash. L&L hauls the garbage to a landfill in Helena, 113 miles away.

Er no, plants don't do that. You need bacteria for that, Or uncatalytic car exhausts on high air fuel ratio diesels. Or thunderstrorms Or nuclear reactors running the Haber process. Basically anything the Greens want to ban.

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