Why are local councils so short sighted?

West Sussex increased the police council tax by 14.5%. Most of will be neeed to pay the huge pensions bill for all those ageing coppers who agreed to leave (even) early(er) without any cut in their pension.

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Andrew
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3% AIUI, with another 1% allowed for social care, IIRC correctly. Unless they hold a local referendum to increase it by some larger amount. And I think you'll find that increasing up to the no-ref limit is what councils are doing.
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Tim Streater

Yet more evidence that employers should not be providing pension schemes. Indeed, such provision should be made illegal.

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Tim Streater

Likely they don?t have a lot of choice with the cuts they have been getting. Hard to be long sighted with not enough money coming in.

Unlikely,

They have decided, in their wisdom, to start

Hard to allow for that when strapped for cash.

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Ray

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Doesn't seem to bother anybody when every other house on an estate decides to cremate bits of dead animal just becasue the suns come out.

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Dave Liquorice

Ageing ? How about aged 38 ?

It was ever thus. I remember a conversation from over 50 years ago when somebody told me their younger brother had just joined the police at around the age of 18 - "because they could retire on half pay after

20 years service".

For some reason that claim stayed in my head ever since, although I never thought to check it until a few minutes ago.

" Most police officers are given the option to retire after only 20 years of service with a pension equivalent to 50% or more of their salary."

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michael adams

In Reigate, Surrey it's £65 a year. It was £29 when they introduced it.

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The Other John

When they tried it in Birmingham, we were almost instantly knee deep in green waste. Just dumped anywhere. And unlike "regular" refuse, it's hard to look for paperwork with addresses on it.

Personally I'll pay the £36 (reduced if you're early) for 9 months of collection. But there's plenty that won't.

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Jethro_uk

But I don't suppose it would take a particularly large percentage of the population to make it like that?

And I wonder how much of that was a protest?

True.

Of course, but if you cost it out it's hardly very much. Probably less than the cost of the fuel, let alone time of driving the(IR) waste to the recycling centre.

It's like those who will happily spend £300 on a golf club but won't spend £50 backing up their (valuable to them) data, but get upset when they lose it.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Better that than fly tipping it I guess (assuming (assuming the owner doesn't need the space later etc)?

We have caught several people fly-tipping / littering on a mates CCTV, from a complete tipper truckload to just some small bits of paper. I believe the truck driver was prosecuted and the (local FFS) litterers confronted and they were apologetic and repentant. I think 'these people' need to know they aren't always invisible and their lack of citizenship won't always go unnoticed.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m

Fly tipping of green waste hasn't been that much of a problem round here. The odd spent cannabis farm gets dumped from time to time and police advice is to bury it. The rest are old tyres and kitchen units :(

Enforcement is none existent.

That happens in quite a few large cities.

It is more of a problem with global warming. There are still leaves on the trees around here but we have already had our last green bin collection of 2019 last week. Next one is Jan 13 for dead Xmas trees.

Never had my own strawberries for Xmas but have been able to have rhubarb crumble and pelargoniums in flower outside a couple of years.

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Martin Brown

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whisky-dave

I already compost more than is allowed in my green bin. Tea bags will will rot down in an ordinary hot compost heap so I don't see a problem. I use my green bin for making leaf mould instead.

I don't

You don't want anything with meat, oils or fat content going into a compost heap to avoid attracting vermin. I don't put commercial onion trimmings on mine either to avoid introducing onion white rot.

Dirty contaminated cardboard is a serious nuisance since it can wreck an entire batch. I suspect at the moment only a couple of types of high value plastic are actually cost effective to recycle.

One snag is that hardly any recycling plant can cope with black plastic so beloved of supermarket cook chill ready meals. It is crazy that they cannot accept it in the recycle stream and then burn it for energy.

Our local recycling bins were designed by some clueless artistic type and have a concave lid that ends up with about a litre of water in it when it rains. Unless you open it very carefully some or all of it sloshes inside destroying any value the paper waste might have had.

Regards, Martin Brown

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Martin Brown

It goes on to say "That being said, 50% of a police offer's salary isn't very much. In fact, the average salary for police and detectives in 2010 was $55,010 according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics."

This isn't UK police.

Though AIUI they retire at 55.

Andy

Reply to
Vir Campestris

No. Most tea bags contain 25% or so plastic for strength and so don't rot. It was SWMBO who brought the non-rotting-down aspect to my attention, and a bit of looking around turned up the reason why.

Use loose-leaf tea instead.

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Tim Streater

And they pay into that pension.

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Bob Eager

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Bob Eager

Fair enough. I only Googled "police 20 years service" or similar and the above quote appeared in the listing, along with the link.

Apparently under the 1987 scheme if applicable they can retire at 50 after 20 years service with

1/3 salary or after 30 years sevice with 20yrs at 1/3 salary and 10 yrs at 2/3 salary

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michael adams

Our green bins are NOT for composting, they are for recycling things like paper and glass.

They'll leave behind a plastic residue.

I've no idea what commercial onion trimmings are.

It's sorting them that is difficult.

Perhaps they can but it;s the fumes and what;s left i more of a problem. I know they say it;s black, but I;ve had ready meals in green and while containers that feel the same and do the same I've no idea if they are the same other than colour no clue on the labeling to tell me.

Handy as a bird bath though. I know what you mean about clueless managment, we have to make use of the massive numbers of art, history and geography students we create. We can't compost them or landfill them ! so...

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whisky-dave

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