Wheelie Bin Compactors anyone?

Sep 25, 2019 Last reply: 6 years ago 78 Replies

Yep: National Trust annual kilo-through-the-post.

Heavily printed with the message, in the now-familiar ticking-off school-marmish tone: "Do not put in your recycling. Put in your compost." [1][2]

The substance caused me to finger it in a kind of wonder, perhaps as a caveman might have handled a cashmere sweater: what _is_ this strange substance? How was it made? How can it be "potato starch", when it feels so much like tough polythene? [These are all rhetorical questions chaps: I don't care to know.]

I also noticed that it seemed to be a patented product, made in Austria. So what's the "carbon footprint" for that, then, Mr Clever-Clogs NT?

John

[1] I use "school-marmish" in the old fashioned sense: I'd be quite surprised if any teacher has dared to be actually bossy, or even authoritative, in the last decade or so. [2] And secondly, having almost mastered the art and science of putting the right things in the right bins over several years years, many people will undoubtedly carefully place this wrapper into the rubbish bin, thinking it to be polythene. Will the recycling police call round?! 8-O

An increasing proportion of my periodicals are arriving in such wrappers. They generally suggest that they may be placed in the garden waste bin.

I checked with my council, but they replied

"Unfortunately this cannot go into our garden wastes bin. What the producers of your magazine possible have not told you is that if this goes to an open windrow facility, which is what we use, it could end up being windblown around the site and become litter. The information provided is applicable to what is called in-vessel composting, which we do not use."

I guess few others will actually check, so they are going to get lots of contamination in their waste.

I have attempted to get this point over to some of these publishers, and have been met with a deafening silence. :-(

Chris

Another one to be aware of if your council collects food waste. The popular starch based bags don?t digest in the anaerobic digesters all have to be screened out as the digesters don?t get hot enough to break them down. The bags make a nuisance of themselves as that clog up the blades of the bag bursting machines. Unlike other plastics the bags stretch like chewing gum around the blades and have to be frequently manually removed.

The councils don?t make an issue of it because they?re desperately keen to stop food-waste going into landfill. The best option is either to use nothing in your food waste bin or just a bit of newspaper.

Tim

I'll tell my wife that. She saves the compostable sleeves from magazines etc especially for food waste (not that we often have any).

But as for them not composting very quickly, in my own garden compost bins I find they disintegrate quite soon.

A nightmare for the recycling industry. Contaminate a recyclable load with that and the whole lot goes to landfill or incinerator.

Our council provides compostable bags for food waste - although no-one has been able to get hold of any for a couple of months, as they are out of stock!

SteveW

It is now ILLEGAL to feed food waste that has been in a human kitchen to pigs and carries a mandatory prison sentence.

Silly I know - as a pig breeder I think it's yet another well intentioned c*ck up in legislation

Andrew

most properties aren't allowed to, chickens, ducks, pigs etc could solve a lot of waste & produce eggs otherwise.

NT

What even uncooked vegetable trimmings ?

So, ... illegal to collect'swill' from schools and feed to pigs (even if heat-treated), but ...

Legal to feed the school kids on Turkey Twizzlers and chips !

They are prohibited by our council.

Andy

so how are you supposed to collect your compostable waste then?

The idea that people will take each item of compostable waste to the outdoor bin individually is not going to happen

It will just lead to people putting compostable waste in the kitchen-bin that they collect non-compostable waste

tim

tim

We have a small ?kitchen caddy? which we can empty into a larger food waste bin that we put out once a week for collection. Using bags isn?t necessary.

Tim

You are supposed to empty the compostable bag into the compost bin, then put the liner into the landfill bin.

I'm sure a lot of people don't bother.

Their latest one is to bill you for taking hardcore to the tip...

Andy

in our case, it's machined timber. Like broken fence posts

The government told the LA's and waste management companies to stop doing this last year.

Any that still are should be reported to someone, forgotten who.

West sussex only charge for old tyres now, I believe.

why pay extra for compostable bags, and then not put them in the compost?

because the bags are compostable

because it's not domestic waste

tim

but you pay a "recycling" surcharge when you buy a new one.

So someone is ripping you off

tim

If it comes from my household and is not commercial, I consider it domestic.

SteveW

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