very OT, NHS waiting times

OT. I'm trying to get some understanding of nhs waiting lists/times. Basically, in considerable pain and waiting for op. Seen consultant, told "about 4 weeks waiting". Just called and his sec. says "Don't know where he's got that from. We are looking at **maybe** Novemember." She followed up with "There's an 18 week pathway". I guess that's NHS-speak for "at least"? Then I notice on the blurb it says something about "consult the NHS constitution if you think you have been waiting too long". Due to mistaken diagnosis by gp I have been waiting since Feb (not on the list becuase of this)! Anyone have any inside knowledge of such things pls? Is there such a thing as a "waiting list" any more. It all seem ad hoc to me.Thanks for any help.
Just thought, the consultant may have been quoting Private medical treatment waiting time.
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Once you have seen the consultant you have got as far as you can 'up the queue' The waiting time from this point is about the same regardless of Private vs NHS.
The only thing that will speed things up is bad weather (can't play golf) lost passport (can't play golf somewhere sunny), volcano spreading ash across Europe (still got passport but can't fly to somewhere sunny to play golf)
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Really?
A few years ago
NHS - about 9 months
Private - when can you come in?
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Rubbish. Private will be a few days max. Often with the same consultant.
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:35:56 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q"

It used to be the case that there was one waiting list / queue to see the Consultant on the NHS, and then another waiting list for the NHS treatment you actually wanted.
The dodge was you could pay the specialist for a single private consultation (which may or may not have had any medical purpose) for 80 - 100 GBP or so and thereby avoid the first waiting list.
The "naughty" bit was that the Consultant acting in his own private capacity could refer patients for treatment at public expense quite possibly obtaining a pecuniary advantage for himself down the line.
It is certainly correct that in the private sector investigations (tests and scans) can often be arranged immediately in real time and operations done in half a week. This is our experience over four operations in three years.
The drag on the private system is that you still need to get a referral from your NHS GP. That might take as long as 3 to 5 weeks and he might still act as if the cost of your treatment was coming out of his budget.

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Why so long? That's totally unacceptable and I would be making a complaint.
We get same day appointment with the NHS GP and the referral letter takes no more than a day or two to be typed up. There's supposedly a 25 charge for the letter but more often than not we are not asked to pay.
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on Tuesday, I found I couldn't get to see a GP until a week later.
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:03:08 +0100, charles wrote:

My GP always has same-day appointments. It's a cunning plan, whereby an appointment won't be accepted until there's a slot on the same day, so I have to keep ringin up... The GP can say that he always sees patients on the same day that the appointments are made.
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:52:57 +0100, PeterC

This is a result of the interference by Blair I think.
We get told we can go to the walk in centre but they won't deal with anything that requires referral or further treatment - and it's not 24 hours either as it was when the new place first opened. If it'd been put next to A&E they could have triaged people appropriately.
I wonder if they make a note of which GPs have most patients ending up at the WIC?
I don't care about a few days wait to see a doc - I do mind wasting half my life re-ringing for an appointment.
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On 21/09/2012 12:30, mogga wrote:

I had an eye problem last week. Optician referred me to the walk in centre at a local hospital. I walked in in the morning, and walked out none the wiser after 2 hours. Walked back in in the afternoon and waited another couple of hours. Finally I was seen at tea time. Now that's a lot of faffing around BUT 45 mins of expert examination, barely 24 hours after strolling into a high street optician, is pretty amazing IMO :-)
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If everyone shared taht opinion the system would probably work a lot better. The probelm is the Romney proportion who believe they have an entitlement to instant health gratification.
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On 21/09/2012 13:55, stuart noble wrote:

I went to my optician as a result of purple flashes in one eye. As they had happened the previous week, when I had been abroad, there had been too long a delay and he could not refer me to the hospital. I went to my GP who referred me and, according to his chart, my symptoms qualified for being seen within 24 hours. Three months later, when I eventually got to see the consultant, he told me to come in first thing next day, as I needed an emergency operation to correct a torn retina.
Colin Bignell
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I had a similar thing happen a lot of floaters suddenly appeared.
Saw the doc that evening referred to hospital following day laser welded back the retina job done all just after lunch:)....
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On 21/09/2012 16:42, Nightjar wrote:

Sorry to hear that. I can't say what would have happened in my case if the retina had been damaged, but I got the impression it would have been dealt with pretty quickly, albeit not in my local hospital.
Fortunately it was a burst blood vessel which, although spectacular in a Windows screensaver kind of way, wasn't dangerous :-)
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On 21/09/2012 17:26, stuart noble wrote:

I was fortunate in that the retina did not detach during the three months I was waiting, so it was quickly dealt with once it had ben dignosed, particularly as everybody else in the same day was there for cataract operations and a vital piece of equipment had broken down, so I was moved to the head of the queue as my operation didn't need it.
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:19:49 +0100, Nightjar
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Some eye hospitals offer emergency appointments - e.g. Oxford. I would have expected you to qualify.
http://www.oxfordradcliffe.nhs.uk/eyehospital/departments/emergencies.aspx
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On 21/09/2012 19:00, polygonum wrote:

I qualified for an appointment within 24 hours, but it was three months before I actually got one.
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:39:27 +0100, Nightjar

That truly is crap.
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On 21/09/2012 20:21, polygonum wrote:

I hear you can just drop into Moorfields if you happen to be anywhere near London. You need to take War and Peace to read though
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:29:42 +0100, stuart noble

That's heavy going at best. But it is really difficult when you are suffering from iritis. :-)
Guess you need an audiobook version.
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