OT. I'm trying to get some understanding of nhs waiting lists/times.
Basically, in considerable pain and waiting for op. Seen consultant,
told "about 4 weeks waiting". Just called and his sec. says "Don't
know where he's got that from. We are looking at **maybe**
Novemember." She followed up with "There's an 18 week pathway". I
guess that's NHS-speak for "at least"?
Then I notice on the blurb it says something about "consult the NHS
constitution if you think you have been waiting too long". Due to
mistaken diagnosis by gp I have been waiting since Feb (not on the
list becuase of this)!
Anyone have any inside knowledge of such things pls? Is there such a
thing as a "waiting list" any more. It all seem ad hoc to me.Thanks
for any help.
Just thought, the consultant may have been quoting Private medical
treatment waiting time. £££
Once you have seen the consultant you have got as far as you can 'up the queue'
The waiting time from this point is about the same regardless of Private vs NHS.
The only thing that will speed things up is bad weather (can't play golf) lost
passport (can't play golf somewhere sunny), volcano spreading ash across Europe
(still got passport but can't fly to somewhere sunny to play golf)
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:35:56 -0700 (PDT), "Man at B&Q"
It used to be the case that there was one waiting list / queue to see
the Consultant on the NHS, and then another waiting list for the NHS
treatment you actually wanted.
The dodge was you could pay the specialist for a single private
consultation (which may or may not have had any medical purpose) for
80 - 100 GBP or so and thereby avoid the first waiting list.
The "naughty" bit was that the Consultant acting in his own private
capacity could refer patients for treatment at public expense quite
possibly obtaining a pecuniary advantage for himself down the line.
It is certainly correct that in the private sector investigations
(tests and scans) can often be arranged immediately in real time and
operations done in half a week. This is our experience over four
operations in three years.
The drag on the private system is that you still need to get a
referral from your NHS GP. That might take as long as 3 to 5 weeks and
he might still act as if the cost of your treatment was coming out of
Why so long? That's totally unacceptable and I would be making a
We get same day appointment with the NHS GP and the referral letter
takes no more than a day or two to be typed up. There's supposedly a
£25 charge for the letter but more often than not we are not asked to
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:03:08 +0100, charles wrote:
My GP always has same-day appointments. It's a cunning plan, whereby an
appointment won't be accepted until there's a slot on the same day, so I
have to keep ringin up...
The GP can say that he always sees patients on the same day that the
appointments are made.
This is a result of the interference by Blair I think.
We get told we can go to the walk in centre but they won't deal with
anything that requires referral or further treatment - and it's not 24
hours either as it was when the new place first opened.
If it'd been put next to A&E they could have triaged people
I wonder if they make a note of which GPs have most patients ending up
at the WIC?
I don't care about a few days wait to see a doc - I do mind wasting
half my life re-ringing for an appointment.
I had an eye problem last week. Optician referred me to the walk in
centre at a local hospital. I walked in in the morning, and walked out
none the wiser after 2 hours. Walked back in in the afternoon and waited
another couple of hours. Finally I was seen at tea time. Now that's a
lot of faffing around BUT 45 mins of expert examination, barely 24 hours
after strolling into a high street optician, is pretty amazing IMO :-)
I went to my optician as a result of purple flashes in one eye. As they
had happened the previous week, when I had been abroad, there had been
too long a delay and he could not refer me to the hospital. I went to my
GP who referred me and, according to his chart, my symptoms qualified
for being seen within 24 hours. Three months later, when I eventually
got to see the consultant, he told me to come in first thing next day,
as I needed an emergency operation to correct a torn retina.
I had a similar thing happen a lot of floaters suddenly appeared.
Saw the doc that evening referred to hospital following day laser welded
back the retina job done all just after lunch:)....
The brightest green light I ever did see;!...
Sorry to hear that. I can't say what would have happened in my case if
the retina had been damaged, but I got the impression it would have been
dealt with pretty quickly, albeit not in my local hospital.
Fortunately it was a burst blood vessel which, although spectacular in a
Windows screensaver kind of way, wasn't dangerous :-)
I was fortunate in that the retina did not detach during the three
months I was waiting, so it was quickly dealt with once it had ben
dignosed, particularly as everybody else in the same day was there for
cataract operations and a vital piece of equipment had broken down, so I
was moved to the head of the queue as my operation didn't need it.
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