Absolutely, and if a new motor were available for the Hoover at a reasonable price, e.g. £15, I'd fit one like a shot. But the replacement motor for the Panasonic, for example, would have been £59.99 - equivalent to almost the cost of the whole cleaner! Manufacturers are adept at screwing us over nowadays and I don't expect Sebo are any different. What Firth et al may have experienced could have been sheer luck of the draw.
MM
Actually, no. I have spent around a hundred quid on, admittedly what turns out to be, dross. But a new Sebo costs well over 200 quid! Are you saying a Sebo won't break? I could be sitting here with a busted Sebo AND 200 quid down instead of "only" one hundred quid. You see, now that I have this awful experience of uprights I am loath to buy ANY new cleaner, despite your warm words about Sebo. Note that my
25-year-old Electrolux cylinder cleaner is still working fine! So why wasn't I a cheapskate when I bought that? (It was one of the cheaper models at the time, as I recall.) You accuse ME of having money to burn when you yourself fork out over 200 quid for a hospital-standard cleaner, but not all of us have hospitals to clean, only a domestic carpet or two every week or so. I expect if some company saw you coming and produced a cleaner with gold-plated bells and whistles on for £999, you'd buy that as well, wouldn't you?MM
However, given that you have asked for advice and are now disputing the answers you have been given (a characteristic which I find deeply irritating), and that advice is consistent (cheap domestic appliances are generally a waste of money), so far as I am concerned you will be "sitting here" alone.
*plonk*
Ah, so if someone asks for advice about buying a new car and the only responses are: "Buy a Bentley", you'd expect me to rush out and buy one, yes? I find it amazing that you and a few others seem almost proud of the fact that cheaper products are tat. I was hoping that at least one of you might have had a good word to say about a particular cheaper model, but I can tell that you've all now closed ranks, so I shall withdraw. (And I'm NOT buying a Sebo, either!)
MM
Never saw the point in keeping on arguing the toss with people, if for any reason you agree with their advice or suggestions. It's fine to say, thanks, but I'm not goign to do that because I can't afford it or whatever.
If they then continue to try and argue that you should, I'd be tempted to just ignore them.
Various people have mentioned Henry's, they are cheaper (also IMO at best av. performance, but YMMV)
Maybe because peoples experience of cheaper models isn't good? (I suspect the 25 yo Electrolux you mentioned probably cost more like the equivalent of £200 than £50 though, maybe there is a good reason why it's lasted so long?)
FWIW ISTR that a couple of Bosch models were recommended by Which as cheaper (
You did not ask for advice on a new car - you said you wanted a new car with better than average reliability and/or customer satisfaction. Now you seem upset that people did not recommend ford or vauxhaul...
Various good things have been said about numatic, some of us have had good service from Dysons (other will no doubt disagree). IIRC there was a cyclone Panasonic that was recommended here in the past.
As long as you accept that you will be buying a mass market product of variable reliability for a mas market price then that is fine. Perhaps the message you should have received is that in this sector there is nothing that stands out head and shoulders above anything else.
....talking of Brand names and the perceptions that they give - I have just bought a Bosch item - "Made in China".
Is that preferable to Turkish workers in a factory in Germany?
So what? You're a dunce and you're willing to say so loydly in public. Perhaps you also go around with a "kick me" sign attached to your pants to that you can feel like a real victim?
What was it?
Apparently only the Logixx range of washing machines are German!
That's always been the case. Even before the "Made in China" era, none of the white goods manufacturers actually made more than half their range. The rest of their range was usually EOM'ed from their competitors who made different parts of the whole range.
E.g. back when Hotpoint was a separate company, they were heavily in to manufacturing washing machines and fridge/freezers, sold under both their own names, and OEM'ed for many other manufacturers, but if you bought a matching built-in Hotpoint microwave, that was made for them by Bosch IIRC, in exchange for goods they made for Bosch.
I'm not involved in that industry anymore (and was only ever on the periphery), and it may be that now there are so few manuafacturers (you'll find that each manufacturer owns a handfull of the former separate brand names), they can genuinely cover more bases. However, now that they tend to order more from OEM Chinese manufacturers anyway, you might argue that not much has changed except that they now subcontract to third parties, rather than competitors.
Well explained - but why do some people get so anal about the country of origin of the brand name. It has no relevance. Scale of manufacture means that items need a vast market to make it viable to set up and tool up. Unfortunately the Chinese are very effective at making prototypes and getting items into production quicker than we ever could - we spend too long working out the margins.
Remember the good old days when factories proudly had their name boldly built into the fabric of the building - Hoover - Fort Dunlop, etc. Now we just have bland industrial estates with only a sign at the entrance telling us who is renting a unit.
Incidently, Hoover building is still there, and I'm sure it will be listed. IIRC, Tescos had a supermarket in there that time I went past. Don't know if it's just a Tescos, or a shopping centre.
It's even got a Wikipedia page
You are welcome. Can you help a bit more? Have you got access to previous posts of mine? I am wondering if I had just quoted a funny character in the offending post.
Having read the rest of the thread (and given that I am on my second vacuum cleaner in 10 years) I may be tempted by the quality of the Sebo next time I buy one (if I can get a cylinder; I don't do uprights and I have no carpets). The part my Bosch will likely need is 30 quid.
Re Which? both my dead Electrolux and the Bosch have been Best-Buys. The Electrolux needed a repair (board from memory) then the motor went in 7-8 years; not sure it's a good score.
Kostas
IMHO for cylinders Miele will be excellent.
Many of these facades are listed.
Like the roof (yup, just the roof, not the rest!) of building 720 at the Marconi site in Chelmsford.
Sorry, no. I stopped running my own news server a few months ago.
Won't they be in Google?
Well, The Grove at Marconi Stanmore was listed and it didn't stop them knocking it down ... on the grounds that it was not a building which was available for the public to see
Didn't I hear that some post-war pre-fabs got listed last week ?
If you want a tub vac, go for a Numatic.
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