Tradesmen's mess!

I can't actually find the pertinent wording on the website, but in terms of me being jointly responsible, surely there must be some distinction between employing a waste contractor specifically to remove a load of rubbish from my property, as opposed to employing a plasterer (ie to do a plastering job) who happens to generate some waste as a by-product of his work, and takes it away with him?

David

The tradesman you hired is only there to do his job, he's not there to do everyone's job. So you are jointly responsible if you also hire him to remove the waste.

Then that would equally apply to the purchasing of materials. In the same way as you can't expect a customer to know what materials are needed, you can't expect them to dispose of the waste - unless this is made *very* clear at the time of contract. Same applies to clearing up, etc.

We've had 6 or 7 jobs done on this house over the last 10 years, and I can't remember a single instance where they didn't make good, clean up, and take all rubbish away. I see that as proper professional practice.

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mary Fisher" saying something like:

That figures.

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember snipped-for-privacy@tiscali.co.uk (Lurch) saying something like:

Exactly what I was going to put. In essence, for small jobs, it's easier to leave the small rubbish with the customer, but bagged up. Normal customers (of which there are a few) find it not a great problem to dispose of. Otoh, the cumulative effect of collecting all the small rubbish from small jobs ends up being none-trivial as a disposal problem.

Ach, I suppose the old bat's entitled to an opinion.

Whereas in one place, built 1935, it clearly says by the lift on a brass plate "Trasdemen shall not use these lifts." (sic) The building is 7 storeys!

The dificulties can effectively double the time for a medium sized job. Since the working day is restricted to 1030-1530 (the only allowable working times).

A council block? The only contractors in those, as far as I know, are council workers.

I use the term loosely, in some cases ...

Mary

Don't laugh about it - that is truely the demented situation in many places now.

Where I last worked, the company were advised they could not risk selling off obsolete, but working IT equipment, as it would carry the liability of an implied waranty! Conversely, they also could not dispose of it as 'scrap' (other than to a licenced waste disposal contractor) as that contravened the waste disposal regulations. For some time, the work around was for items to be carefully placed in a skip, with the expectation that many items would recycle themselves (IYSWIM), until some f****it of an environmental auditor cottoned on to this and failed us on an aduit for improper management of hazardous waste ! So now everyone loses, including the environment!

Tragically the situation is similar at the work places of most people I know, and not just with IT equipment. Ordinary people are being made criminals just for a bit of sensible recycling.

Another point to consider is that I have had numerous skips for a recent job. The last one is now being filled with the customers rubbish, this is not an isolated issue. The last three jobs that I can think off I Have had old mattresses and usually all of the on going garden waste as it saves them having to suffer the smell by their back door. I can honestly say that none of these customers even bothered to ask me if it was allright. In all honestly I dont mind as I always get on with my customers. Their is no way that I am going to risk upsetting my current customer as i value the bacon butties too much, especially over a small amount of skip space. Another point non the less.

Legin

Rather makes the point that the average punter *doesn't* find it that easy to dispose of waste as some here think.

Of course in this instance, if you'd been forced to order an extra skip because of the customer's own rubbish, you'd be perfectly entitled to charge for it.

"Ed Sirett" wrote | The dificulties can effectively double the time for a medium sized | job. Since the working day is restricted to 1030-1530 (the only | allowable working times).

I thought 1030-1530 (less elevenses, lunch, and threeses) /was/ a normal plumber's working day :-)

After all, he can't be expected to wash and wax the van, press his overalls, brasso his spanners, and go to the merchants for bits all in his own time before arriving on site at 0830.

Owain

I've never seen a brass spanner ... one lives and learns.

Mary

Brasso is useful for polishing many things as well as brass. Perspex and scratches on car paint to name but two.

Well, yes, I've done it. And glass.

But I've never seen a spanner made from those materials either :-)

Mary

He might have proper bright spanners which would respond to a polish. I hate those painted plumbing types. Spanners too.

Or is she taking advantage, by not paying to dispose of trade waste by putting it in a DOMESTIC bin, therefore contributing to a higher cost of council tax.

:-)

Steve Dawson

Wiat council workers ?? most are contractors now.

I'm very time poor after making 10 trips to the tip!

Christian.