I'm a new DIY-er and an avid flight simulation pilot. I want to make my
own cockpit using MDF and timber but have no idea where to start. I've
been told not to screw MDF to MDF as MDF is a weak material and will not
hold for very long. The advice was to use a block of wood to hold both
pieces of wood together.
I've been to my local B&Q a few times but the wood available there seems
to be rather soft and flimsy. I have no idea what to ask for but I was
hoping for timber/wood that was harder. My plans for my pit calls for a
few lengths of timber as a structural support --- I will make a
"platform" with timber underneath and a "surface" of MDF. This platform
is essential because I plan to screw on (attach) the side consoles and
monitor stand to this assembly.
At this point, I am really very new so I am not sure of what specific
questions to ask. Any help would be appreciated.
Wow! Why didn't I think of that?!
John Williamson;3227960 Wrote:
That pulls the MDF towards it... which I don't think would work. What
I've been advised to do is to drill THROUGH the MDF and use the block of
wood + screw to hold the MDF in place. Instead of having the screw
teeth inside the MDF and pulling it towards the "jointing block," the
idea was to have the screw teeth inside the block of wood and use that
and the screw head to "sandwich" the MDF and keep it steady... I hope
that made sense.
'Andy Burns[_9_ Wrote:
Thanks, I got that on my list!
Well, I was planning to build a central area to which all other parts of
the cockpit would be screwed onto. The central area would also support
the pilot seat so thick support timbers would be great.
I would then have two "towers" that will screw onto the central area,
these towers will hold my joystick and throttle -- I am using
Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS. As the two towers will only be small, I am
worried that they might warp/bend with the stresses/torque from hard
yanking-and-banking and this is where I am really worried that the
screws will just come off if I use the soft timber I see in B&Q.
I plan to use 18mm MDF for the central area's flooring, then maybe 12mm
MDF as the walls of the tower.
Thanks David! He and I have quite a few things in common, but he's a
commercial bus driver. I "fly" the F-16 Falcon in Falcon BMS.
I am well on my way to my bronze badge and I have been given control
during aerotow since my first training flight. Stalls and recovery
discussed and performed on my 5th flight. Assisted landing (P2 worked
the brakes) since my first flight as well, and did my own landing on my
4th flight. I am told this is not "normal progression" for a glider
student and even the CFI acknowledges that my flight sim experience is a
factor for my skill level.
Pity an ASK 21 or a Discus 1000 can't carry missiles :)
F Murtz;3228057 Wrote:
'Andy Burns[_9_ Wrote:
No access to welding tools, no welding skills, and the aluminium stuff
is just expensive. Buying an Obutto or similar would end up cheaper.
No, I am not building a replica cockpit. I just want this for a more
ergonomic position. Sitting in an office chair with my Warthog HOTAS
controls on the desk means my arms are in a higher position compared to
an actual pilot in a fighter plane cockpit. I am after the function of
things and with my limited woodworking skills (ie, NONE!!), the less
cutting I have to do, the better!!
As I've said, I do plan to make the central area with 18mm MDF, with as
thick timber as I can find. I wonder why there is constant reference to
plywood though.... is it stronger than MDF? The other "load-bearing"
parts would be the towers I've mentioned earlier.
I've also managed to buy an actual Martin Baker ejection seat and I
would need to mount it using lengths of timber, so I would need really
strong/hard timber so that it doesn't flex/bend/pit from all the weight
of myself plus the seat.
I gather at this point that B&Q's selection of timber isn't quality
material? Is there a rating system or name for the hardness of timber?
I'd like to be able to go up to a guy and say "do you have CLS timber
with hardness of 5 and legth of XX.Xcm"? Also, is it possible to get
properly "squared" planed timber? I'd love to do this myself but like I
said, no skill, not tools too!
I have done both too. I used to use the one I posted a link to when I
had a Seneca III and couldn't get out to fly it. Being designed as a
training aid, it allowed me to practice recognising and responding to
emergencies without actually encountering them in real flight.
You are, as usual, wrong. The few thousand for the full Elite kit is
quite enough for flight training and there is an excellent EE Lightning
simulator at the Tangmere that has been built by the museum volunteers
on a shoe string.
Humm... hope they last a while;!...
Now thats something you don't but every day;!...
It's all rather tempting to think that harryagin's nom de plume was a
well considered choice (he certainly harries the this news group) with
his rather provocative, and often pointless, thread starters.
If you are a good pilot, your passengers shouldn't notice any g forces
in flight. About the only thing I miss is the kick as you fly into your
own slipstream at the end of a good 360 degree turn.
You obviously haven't been using the right simulators.
The simulator at Tangmere *is* an EE Lightning cockpit. In fact, I found
it to be a better simulation than the RAF's own EE Lightning simulator
which I tried in the 1960s. That cost a few million quid and took a team
of operators to run.
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 13:02:55 +0200, bagoako wrote:
Yep. Depending on what sort of weight you need it all to support, you can
either use square section wood or plastic corner blocks, as somebody else
has already mentioned.
If you need it to be REALLY sturdy, then the stuff used to make the
structure for partition walls is cheap and ubiquitous in 3"x2" cross
section. Just ask for CLS.
You probably don't need the outer skin to be as heavy as MDF - ply would
probably do just fine for much of it, with MDF for the bits that need to
take more hammer.
Start off by heading to a proper builder's merchant or timber yard...
Have you come across this guy?: http://tinyurl.com/lr9yw8w (or
Might provide some ideas?
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