Thunderbird 115.10 and newsgroups - present status

Nov 01, 2024 Last reply: 1 year ago 35 Replies

I've resisted upgrading to 115.10 from 102.15 due to earlier posts about newsgroup issues. Is this still a problem ?- I use news.individual.net server for newsgroups. Thanks


I can't answer that, but I switched to SeaMonkey a short time ago and find it to be much faster than T'Bird (which I'd been using for many years) as well as less prone to having problems

I'm using 128.4.0. Seems to be OK!

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I'm still on 78.14.0. Works absolutely fine.

I’m on 78.13.0 and it works sans problème.

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HTH

It depends on what OS you are using, as to how practical that is.

115.16.2 ESR is the end for Windows 7 and Windows 8 users. It is not clear why that has to be the case. See the Release Compatibility table here.

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Paul

I'm running v128.x with NIN and GIGANEWS, I find it's necessary to occasionally click offline/online to give it a "kick"

If the user is on Windows 7 or Windows 8, release 115.16 is the last of the Thunderbirds that will install on those OSes. We don't know the OPs OS.

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"Release compatibility

(Windows) 10, (Windows) 11 Still supported

(Windows) 7, Server 2008 R2, (Windows) 8, Server 2012, (Windows) 8.1 and Server 2012 R2 115.16.2esr (x64) 2018–2024 115.16.2esr (x86) 2009–2024 ... "

Paul

I'm using Windows 10 Pro. Thunderbird keeps asking to upgrade to 115 although I see 128 is now available. I just remember people having significant issues with newsgroups when

115 was first released. But if it is all working now will upgrade !

V28.4.x and news.individual.net and so far the only problem I've seen is if I take too long to compose a followup to the newsgroup it fails to send.

If I then quit the followup taking the offer to "save to daft folder" and then go to drafts, select the message and Thunderbird reports resetting connection to news.individual.net and I can post immediately.

I'm on 115.16.0esr with Linux Mint. Its OK - seems reasonably stable

I am not sure 128 is that stable

That's one example what I was talking about, quicker way to re-send is press the ((o)) icon in the bottom left corner of the status bar twice, then it will go.

Likewise any time the status bar sticks on "loading message"

You'll may notice sometimes you click "get messages" it says there are no new messages on server, but if you go offline/online then all of a sudden it decides there are new messages after all.

All of these quirks began when the C/C++ NNTP code was replaced with a JS version ...

I took the plunge a few weeks ago and am currently using 115.10.1 and it's mostly ok. The user interface has changed in a few odd ways, for example if you double-click on a new item it opens each posting in the thread in a new tab, which I find a bit annoying. But if you open the new item first then it works normally.

There are other changes to do with showing messages threaded by default so I had to alter a few settings, but I'm sorry I can't now remember exactly what.

In the config editor, try changing

mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads

Thanks for the tip. I don't get these problems too often but your suggested method would work quicker than the one I was using.

Thanks, Andy. That does seem to have fixed that problem.

I'm on 102.15.1 (32 bit Win 10 Pro) and it works fine. A bit slow starting up, but I can live with that.

In Windows Task Manager, you can add "I/O Read Bytes" and "I/O Write Bytes" to the columns in the display of "Details" view. What you might notice, is that Thunderbird does a lot of reads, like when you cause a USENET server to check for new messages in all the groups.

On my setup, that causes 5GB of reads and 7MB of writes. Most of the activity is reads. Parsing Mork (.msf) files takes time. Even if that was "coded in assembler", it would not go fast.

What is a bit strange, is the folder for E-S USENET server, only has 500MB of files. I wonder where the 5GB of reads is coming from... The entire profile folder, is only 2GB of files.

If I cared at this point then, I would use Sysinternals Process Monitor, set the fllter to Readfile,Writefile,Createfile and watch the file level activity, to understand exactly what the hell it is reading :-)

Paul

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