This week's challenge

Yesterday a 240° external corner PIR mounted on brick gave up the ghost after 10 years, as the IR-transparent cover had gone brittle and cracked, allowing water in. An identical replacement was no longer available, but Toolstation had something electrically similar (

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). Annoyingly, Toolsatan do not have installation instructions available for download. I was able to find these elsewhere, and found there didn't seem to be anything unusual about the PIR unit.

I bought one and have just been looking at how it's mounted on the external corner. The bracket they supply for this is strong enough, but stupidly the holes for the supplied rawlplugs have to be drilled with their centres only 10mm from the edge of the corner! So, with the supplied plug, and a 6 mm hole required, there would only be 7mm of brick left. With two holes at 90° to each other, and only 15mm between them, the edge of the brick would be very weak. I also thought that using hammer action so close to an unsupported edge would be courting disaster. So I used a 4mm TCT bit without hammer action and slowly drilled the hole. That went ok, so I opened the hole out with a 5mm TCT bit. I found some 5mm rawlplugs which I could use with a thinner screw as well, as I reckoned the screw supplied would have put so much force on the expanding plug as I tightened it that the brick could easily split off. So far it seems to be ok, so tomorrow I'll complete the fitting.

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Jeff Layman
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You were lucky. I haven't had much success trying to drill close to a brick edge so would have been tempted to make a metal/wooden corner plate (fixed further away from the edge) and screw the PIR to that. Although perhaps one of the modern wonder adhesives would have worked ...

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nothanks

I've some epoxy ready, and some right-angle brackets in case it splits off when I do the final tightening...

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Jeff Layman

Picture from the instructions, showing ambitious placement of corner mount screws.

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I don't know if I'd want epoxy smeared around, as the temperature coefficient likely matches no other part of the problem.

Paul

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Paul

Not sure I'd want to tighten them, just do them up till they touch.

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Animal

I completed the installation yesterday, and it works ok. I just tightened the fixing screws enough to hold it on, and as there's very little weight involved it seems fine.

However, there's another poor design feature. If you look at the picture in the link Paul provided, you can see that the cable entry is at the bottom. It is through a gland, but even so it should have been at the top in case any water gets in, as there's no way the water can drain out. If it had been at the top, it would have been able to drain out at the side where it had entered. I'm considering drilling (carefully!) a drain hole on the underside of the corner-fixing piece between where the cable entry glands are.

Reply to
Jeff Layman

or omit a strip of gasket down there etc.

Reply to
Animal

Gasket? What gasket? Yet it's apparently IP65 rated. I wonder...

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Jeff Layman

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