The pic project/ caravan water barrel measureing.

The item which I ordered from Argos a couple of days ago, arrived this morning. Its an axial flow, spindle along the length of the water flow, quite well made and very sensitive to the slightest flow through it. You can blow through it and have it count up. It has two counters in the display, a master total and shorter term one. The short term can be reset leaving the master value in place. Both values can be reset.

Both values are shown to 1/10th of a litre or 1/10th of a gallon.

It runs on a replaceable button cell, which is located under a removable coin opened cover, O ring sealed from moisture. This is in the very bottom of the unit, opposite side to the display and the far side of the impeller/ water passage, with connections leading up to the display and electronics.

The display and electronics seems to be completely and permanently sealed in place, in its compartment :-(, so the pipes have to be adapted to reach where you want to read the unit.

My guess is that the Hall Effect sensor is mounted in the electronics compartment, on the PCB, with a tiny magnet on the impeller.

The water input is 3/4 BSP female, output 3/4 BSP male, so it will fit straight onto a normal UK garden tap. It is marked with a direction of flow, but I doubt the flow direction makes any difference - it counts fine with the flow either way.

The unit powers down if no button is pressed and no water flows for 20 minutes and re-awakes on either.

As said, it is extremely sensitive to the slightest flow and its accuracy is more accurate than I can check it. Maximum variation in reading was plus or minus 0.6L in measuring 50L, even with a stop start flow through it, so more than accurate enough for my purpose.

No doubt due to the axial flow, unlike some it doesn't insist on any particular orientation of the unit.

I'm waiting now for 3/4 BSB to 12mm (both male and female) adaptors, to install in the caravan.

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Harry Bloomfield
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Any detail on the flow meter ?

Reply to
fred

Have you got a link - doesn't sound like the sort of thing I expected Argos to stock?

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Andrew Gabriel

In message , Andrew Gabriel writes

I think Harry might have meant Ebay.

This is what he linked to before:

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Chris French

Wouldn't it be nice to have some sort of flowmeter like this which you could leave in a CH circuit. (Displaying rate not volume for preference).

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newshound

Chris French was thinking very hard :

It is from Argos, but via ther ebay store. I think you might be surprised at what Argos do sell. They even sell car suspension bushes now as I found last weekend when searching for some replacements. You can order via Ebay and either collect in store or have the item delivered to you free.

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Harry Bloomfield

Wonder would that work with diesel. Always wanted to know consumption figures for a boat engine. Convenient for picking the most economical cruising speed

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fred

On second thoughts it would probably take two. One for the feed and one for the return. Rats, its getting complicated now as the return may be pressurised

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fred

fred wrote on 30/04/2015 :

Not just pressurised, but quite hot too having passed through the HP pump. The only show an increasing total, rather than an instantaneous flow rate as you would get on a car.

The best way to do it, would be a pic ( lol), measuring how long the injectors are open for, with an input from HP line pressure.

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Harry Bloomfield

In message , Harry Bloomfield writes

Really? sounds odd.

Might you be mixing it up with the option Ebay have to clicka nd collect from an Argos store - which lots of sellers offer now.

This is just a collection option, its got nothing to do with being sold via Argos.

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Chris French

Chris French presented the following explanation :

I had no idea they offered that, I have bought a few things like this, from what I thought was Argos.

Reply to
Harry Bloomfield

There are meters for heating circuits which measure flow rate and temperature differential to give energy consumption. They are used in communal heating circuit buildings to meter each appartment. They are not cheap though.

Not sure if that's what you meant?

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Andrew Gabriel

I have a flow meter in my heating but its analogue. Its a ball in a tapered tube that goes up with the flow. Its to get the best flow rate through the solar panels.

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dennis

Arm and leg price range I wanted to fit some to the new heating system here, five in total, woodburner, oil boiler, solar, CH and DHW. they would have cost a very significant percentage of the whole installation. They didn't appear...

Flow rate ought to be available. The solar pump unit has one to set the flow rate correctly for size of panel v size of heat exchanger in tank. This is a lightly spring loaded disc in a clear tube not sure if the tube is tapered.

This thread got me searching for a similary cheap volume meter but for kerosene. I've not found one yet, though there are bare sensors with a pulse output avialable from China but plastic and with simple ridged push on hose conections.

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Dave Liquorice

consumption

economical

My digging for a simple flow meter for kerosene produced hits for devices to measure engine fuel consumption so they are out there but I suspect at price with 3 digits of pounds.

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Dave Liquorice

If you don't expect terrific accuracy, the unit I got should work fine for most things, to indicate consumption over your period. These are not precision instruments, good for a general guide only, which was what I wanted.

The mechanism will suffer 'slippage' hence the the potential for inaccuracy.

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Harry Bloomfield

Given it's dependence on temperature it can't be much more than a guide!

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Fredxxx

"Water has a viscosity of 0.0091 poise at 25 °C, or 1 centipoise at

20 °C."

Do contributers deliberatly write misleading stuff like that or are they just trying to be smart arses? Why mix the units?

"Water has a viscosity of 0.91 centipoise at 25 °C, or 1.00 centipoise at 20 °C."

Doesn't appear so "dramatic" ... Why don't they go the whole hog and say:

"Water has a viscosity of 0.0091 poise at 25 °C, or 1 centipoise at

20 °C, a difference of 90,000 millipoise."

Can't say I notice any difference between cold (30 C) and hot (80 to

90 C) with flow rate indicator on our solar system but then its a spring and disc not floaty ball design.
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Dave Liquorice

Presumably you're talking about a displacement hull rather than one designed to rise out of the water like a 'speedboat'. The most economic speed is around a half to three quarters of the waterline length limited speed (essentially what you can get at maximum throttle unless the boat is very underpowered).

ISTR that for a 30 foot waterline length, the limit was around 6 to 7 knots. In any case, it varies in proportion to the square root of the waterline length of the vessel. Trying to exceed this limit is, quite literally, an uphill struggle.

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Johnny B Good

I should have added that I meant "affordable". Not a problem if the price was two or three times higher with the body in brass.

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newshound

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