Socket near sink query

On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:22:23 +0100, in uk.d-i-y John Smith strung together this:

No, the regs say you can't have a socket actually in the sink. It doesn't mention distance from the sink. NICEIC guidelines are 500mm from the sink. My personal choice is 300mm from a draining board and

Nope, just make yourself aware of it! I, as an electrical contractor, can't force customers to upgrade their electrical installation, only advise them of the problems.

Yes.

No. The regulations just state that accessories must be suitable for the area in which they are installed. This is somewhat open to interpretation with respect to sink proximity. If it is located so that it is unlikely to get wet, there is no problem. If it really is close and could easily be splashed, then you could always go for IP rated accessories, although they would look very odd in a kitchen!

Christian.

A socket IN the sink? As in a hole cut in the sink and a socket stuck through this hole!

The regs actually think someone would do this !!!

I don't believe it!

John

Actually, I'd have thought it would be permitted if the socket is IPx8. I may be wrong and don't have them in front of me.

I think they just don't particularly anticipate it and don't specifically ban it. All equipment has to be suitable for the installed location because of a general catch-all, which would require IPx8 (possibly IPx7). Again, I may be wrong. I very much doubt the situation has arisen in practice!

Christian.

Others have already answered your query, but if you're too bothered about it you could convert it to a RCD protected socket, although it would cost you an arm and a leg.

Roger (my reader sometimes loses mail/newsgroup messages

- if you think you should have had a reply/comment, please e-mail me again. Ta!)

How else do you feed a waste disposal unit?

It's more of a problem cutting the hole in the toilet for the saniflow socket, though.

ROFL !!! Daft bugger. :-))

Roger wrote | Others have already answered your query, but if you're too bothered | about it you could convert it to a RCD protected socket, although | it would cost you an arm and a leg.

An RCD socket costs £20.99

Owain

Hi,

How far from the sink is it? Would a longer kettle from the next nearest kettle lead do the trick? The main concern might be a kettle lead or base falling in the sink.

cheers, Pete.

lol! I remember seeing floor sockets with just a flat metal flap over the front: would they make suitable replacements for something overly close?

Regards, NT

Yup - you have to use two hands to use those, so if they're wet from the sink you get the full effect across your chest.

"N. Thornton" wrote | I remember seeing floor sockets with just a flat metal flap over | the front: would they make suitable replacements for something overly | close?

I think not; they're not IP rated against water ingress.

Owain

I've never really understood these flappy floor-socket things. In several places I've seen them installed, I've also seen the cleaners wet-mopping the floor and using those big floor polishing machines.

Brings the brass flappy bits up nicely, until they fall off or the wiring catches fire :-)

Hwyl!

M.