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Bullshit

Bullshit

In this context, "scraped" and "scrapped" are antonyms but easy to confuse on a quick read - which is exactly what I did.

How about the Cuba Missile Crisis (1962)

I have solani set up on my news client but I can;t seem to access its newsgroup lists

charles snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk> wrote

There was no possibility of that producing a nuke holocaust, even if some stupid russian had fired a nuke at the USA. The most that could have happened is that the russian vessel used would have been nuked and everyone would have wrung their hands.

Are you able to successfully authenticate with the server ?

The account closes there, if not used every so often.

I think the E-S auto-close is more generous in terms of time scale.

"Manage newsgroup subscriptions" should get you there, but I think the newer Thunderbird I'm not running, there might be some minor difference to get to that list.

You may have to punch a discrete "update" button or something. Older versions are over-anxious and will download the list every time you use the interface.

This format, as sent by the server to you, should work.

# News host information file. # This is a generated file! Do not edit.

version=2 freenews.netfront.net lastgroupdate=1691342133 uniqueid=0

begingroups aaa.inu-chan ab.arnet ab.general ab.jobs ab.politics abg.allgemein abg.amiga abg.comp

When it is an older format, the comma stuff on the end causes a problem on newer Thunderbird. The names of the newsgroups may not appear with this format, but there can be thousands of relatively blank lines in the dialog.

# News host information file. # This is a generated file! Do not edit.

version=1 newsrcname=news.eternal-september.org lastgroupdate=0 firstnewdate=0 uniqueid=0

begingroups control,,1,0,0 control.cancel,,1,0,0 control.checkgroups,,1,0,0 control.newgroup,,1,0,0 control.rmgroup,,1,0,0 junk,,1,0,0

But I couldn't guess what the Solani issue is. I tried to get an account and received no reply.

Paul

It didn't feel like that to this twelve-year-old boy. Trouble was that none of the adults in the room - or for that matter, outside the room in the British newspapers, on the radio or TV - were making any reassuring noises at the time.

Did you have that confidence back in 1962 or is it a conclusion you've arrived at in later years, with the benefit of hindsight?

One of the most popular writers of the 1950s in England and, I believe, also in Australia was Neville Shute. I wonder if "On the Beach" gave people Down Under a kind of reassurance while it was having exactly the opposite effect on people living in the Northern Hemisphere?

Nick, aged 12-and-three-quarters

Nick Odell snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.ca wrote

Kids don't have a clue about that sort of thing.

Not surprising that some mindless hyperventilate

Yep

I never bought his bullshit

You mean that you've got an account with Solani?

Try what Paul suggested first.

I see that you're using Thunderbird. If you haven't done so already, right-click on news.solani.org, and then left-click on "Manage Newsgroup Subscriptions". The "Current News Groups" will be highlighted. Firstly, left-click on "New Groups", as that will add any new ones. Then go through the list selecting any groups you want, and click on "Subscribe".

The Novel “Down to a Sunless sea” was quite an interesting read. For those who haver heard of it is about the crew and passengers of an airliner who as Nuclear exchanges start to take place gradually run out of options to where they can find a place that is survivable.

GH

How about it? Russia willy waving, and backed down. Point being even a nuclear exchange - which would have been over very quickly - would not have been a holocaust. Just the end of Russia, as they knew full well.

Well this 12 year old boy had already come to the conclusion that with few exceptions, that was adults for you. Mostly ignorant, emotional and pretty f****ng dumb.

Fortunately I was at a school staffed by the minimum of degree level schoolmasters with several being Oxbridge PhDs, so intelligent informed comment was available

I read the book and was very disappointed. Really poor science. It was the same as John Wyndham's novels and John Christopher's 'Death of Grass'. All pounding the soviet inspired 'everything hi tech is scary and will end in disaster' message. Then Silent Spring etc etc. The worst thing about growing up then was the unrelenting onslaught of doom and gloom, fortunately superseded by the Beatles etc. and a huge party that lasted nearly 8 years.

You might, but what will it be like afterwards back to around the time of the dark ages.

Best hope that one goes off right over your head one night, instant oblivion, best bet from what I've seen of it!..

In article snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk>, charles snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk> scribeth thus

Might this be what was meant?..

The Russian radar operator who prevented a large-scale nuclear exchange was Stanislav Petrov. On September 26, 1983, while on duty at the Soviet nuclear early-warning system's command center, the system reported a missile launch from the United States. Petrov judged it to be a false alarm, likely a computer or radar glitch, and chose to disobey protocol by not reporting it, a decision that averted a potential nuclear war between the Soviet Union and the United States

AIUI the ‘Missile Launch’ warning appeared on Petrov’s screen but also on those of higher authorities. Petrov was answering panic phone calls from the higher levels, but he did not believe there was as actual launch taking place. Through the satellite’s optical system he could see the twinkling lights but did not think it was representative of a missile attack. Again and again the ‘Launch’ signal flashed up on his screen, and he repeatedly refused to acknowledge an attack despite the urgent calls on his phone. We all owe Petrov much for holding his nerve while under extreme pressure.

Well I keyed it all in and it wasn't a big deal frankly Some of Norfolk gota lot of radiation but mutations are normal for norfolk anyway.

So how many nuclear explosions have you personally witnessed Tony?

Same happened in the USA. when a new radar system reported waves of missiles taking off from Russia, then vanishing as a new wave was launched.

Turns out it was a radar system so good it was able to detect the moon rising and since the radar pulse frequency was just long enough to see Russia and no more, delayed echoes from previous pulses showed up as ones originating in the Soviet union.

Since none of his other kit reported anything, the operator flagged it as a probable software error and passed it up the chain.

In the Soviet days they worked out that by using very powerful radars scattered over the Soviet Union they could locate exoatmospheric missiles accurately enough to enable engagement by nuclear-armed interceptor missiles.

During early trials of the radars, they detected an attack but one which wasn’t showing on enough stations to plot an intercept. What the operators had detected was the moon rising at some of the radar sites.

The Soviets made good use of this by using the moon to train their radar operators.

However, the Americans were aware of the system but not much about the details, and built an intercept station in California. By co-ordinating the received signal with the moon’s position, gradually worked out where the individual stations were located and how the intercept system worked.