The Russians are to sell at the end of the year a new range of 100% elecric
drive cars using a revolutionary new rotary toroidal "vane" engine" - some
cars will be made in Germany. Some crank in the USA said he invented it. He
never. I "believe" the battery pack is small for the car so nearly always
runs on the engine. The engine only turns a genny. A dissapointing 67mpg
(US). I seems cheap to buy. so I will get my cheque book out:
"it has been said that the swing-piston design combines all the
disadvantages of the rotary with all the disadvantages of the
reciprocating." (Wikipedia) If there's any truth in it take that to be
67 miles per car.
Do not go on wikipedia - people make it up there. It is 15 kilos (the
weight of the engine) for 30 kilowatts output. 1/4 to 1/3 the size and
weight of an normal engine. Amazing power/weight ratio. The battery is small
and only gives 2 km range. A bigger battery would have given the car
greater mpg. BTW, it is about 75mpg UK. Nothing comes close to it and it is
quiet and a dream to drive with a seamless electric transmission - no silly
This is a breakthrough. It only took Russian engineers 6 months get the
design right. While everyone else is looking at their navels. Further R&d
will get it more efficient.
You still haven't worked out that if the engine charges the battery that
having a bigger battery makes mpg less?
Big batteries only make more mpg if you start with them charged and don't
use the engine until they are flat.
Then you finish the test and claim really good mpg.
So it hasn't been tested yet.
While everyone else is looking at their navels. Further R&d
This car has only a range of 2 km on battery. The batteries in hybrids claw
back kinetic braking energy, and also take charge for surplus power. That is
the Prius can get 75mpg. Those chargeable from the mains as well can get
more mpg of course, and overall cheaper running.
It has - even Putin drove it. They are arranging manufacturing. They took
order a few weeks back and got 55,000 immediately. They only planned 50,000
in the first year. They can get production up fast because thee battery is
small. The problem with hybrids and EVs is getting the batteries.
Thank you Dennis for your valuable input.
Oi, don't diss the mighty Lada.
My mate had a Moskvich - in remarkable condition, it was, which was
hardly surprising as it never went anywhere. He bought it for 90quid
and sold it for 190. I was amazed at the number of eejits out there,
as the phone rang for a week.
Ladas aren't a russian design, theyre simply Fiat 124s from the 1960s.
And despite all the rubbish spoken about them, theyre an ok no frills
car. Vehicle design has moved on for sure, they were fairly good in
their day, now they're just an almost half century old design that's
still being made, and the lack of ongoing development gives them a
correspondingly low price.
Have you actually had one and compared it to a Fiat 124?
Yes the bodyshell is the same but that's about it. The front suspension
is completely different as is the engine and gearbox.
It's easier to list the things that are the same rather than the
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