Rotten Apple?

You can sign up for an apple ID without needing any iTat. Handy for when apple types send you documents in "pages" format and you need to convert them, to something the rest of the world can make use of.

Thanks, Andy!

But during the process, everything Windows seemed to conspire against me with updates. Then tea was declared. I thought I had confirmed the Apple ID, allowed the W10, AV, Browser and VMWare updates to happen, then it came back with a login screen.

On entering the email and password, it said that I have to use the login with an iOS or OSx device to set it up before using the iCloud login for Windows.

I've given up for tonight, but will start again tomorrow.

I have an I device but because its got face ID you are supposed to only need the apple ID only once, however in recent days every time I want to download an app it wants the id and pass code, which of course I hid in a very safe place under a file name I've forgotten. Bah humbug. I think Apple id is only for those using apple stuff. As Itunes is on pc though I'm not sure if you can grease their palm with silver to get access to the Icloud. Brian

Bill snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com posted

I too have tried this but gave up at this point. Even if you can get it working now, at some future point it is bound to stop working due to some improvement either at Apple or Windows. Then you have to spend another few hours finding out how to get it working again. Life's too short.

In message snipped-for-privacy@none.demon.co.uk>, The Marquis Saint Evremonde snipped-for-privacy@bastille.com writes

Here is where I have got to:

My emails, including the one from my son, come in via Turnpike on a virtual 32-bit W7 machine. In trying to set up the Apple ID, I used Firefox in the VM.

On checking today, it appears I have registered an Apple ID and today, unlike last night, I can get to the management screen.

I then tried logging in and going to "Manage" in the 64-bit W10 host machine. This appears to have worked.

When I try to look at his photo album in either OS, I get the following message: "iCloud Photo Sharing is not available for this device".

I think I'll give up unless anyone can suggest a magic way forward.

Bill. I should give up. You are clearly too stupid to use a computer.

Have you followed:

In message <qbjb4d$441$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, The Natural Philosopher snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid writes

You are probably right.

When we had a computer related business, my big strength was in the testing, as I excelled at making stupid mistakes that would uncover hidden obscure bugs that the software writers had missed.

I was moderately good then with the diagnostics in analysing whereabouts the problems were.

But, "iCloud Photo Sharing is not available for this device" isn't exactly a helpful message.

I'm trying one last pass through the various instructions and have reached the stage where a restart is called for, so I'll post this and disappear.

Give up.

Apple have built a secure walled garden around their sharing service, intended for families, er, iFamilies.

Your son should be able to post snaps to other services on his device. Whatsapp?

or wait until he comes home - which is what we used to wait for in the old days, the slide show ...

He seems to have largely reverted to email so I now have quite a few pictures and a video he took of the bear opening the door of the pickup truck next door, climbing in and emerging with packet of crisps it had found. Today he is in the Smoky Mountains.

I remember slide shows. Ages to set up, the smell of hot dust on the lamp and, ultimately, tedium.

OK, I've given up.

It still insists that I log in from an Apple device before I can use iCloud Photo Sharing in Windows.

As far as I can tell, I've followed all the instructions to the letter.

Bill, you are clearly not with the program; the Apple paradigm. You need to decide who's side you are on. This guy will help you make up your mind.

It reminds me of when I wanted to join a TomTom forum, so I could complain about the wrong directions that lorry drivers using the devices followed, and ended up trying to drive through our living room. TomTom Forums needed my device serial number to register, but since I didn't have a TomTom, this was impossible. Another kind of Catch-22 situation.

In message snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Graham. snipped-for-privacy@mail.com writes

What is particularly bizarre is that one of the friends I help with computer problems has just decided to move from his newish all singing Windows desktop to a refurbished iMac for himself and one for his wife.

Using Teamviewer, I have supported him for years and years, so I am now Teamviewering into his iMac. He has been on the phone virtually every day since it arrived and I am now moderately up to speed on his iMac.

Together, we have managed to get most of his main files across, got his printers working, installed a new scanner because the old one was incompatible and found that it was a keyboard fault (stuck key) that had stopped him being able to send any emails.

There were also a couple of days where he thought he had lost everything on it, and had been looking for a cardboard box to pack it in ready to return to the supplier for repair, having carried it into the hall. After advice from my son, he found a backup and we got it going again.

He still thinks it looks great, has great speakers, and he still wants to use it for his writing work.

His only current problem is that he copied all his photos over from the PC and it sync'd them to his iCloud, which now says he has reached the free limit and wants him to pay for more storage. I have told him he is on his own searching for how to unsync stuff from the cloud.

I understand that people love Apple, but don't think I will join that paradigm/universe.

Oh and Teamviewer has now decided that I am probably using it commercially (absolutely not) and has started asking for money.

There are iOS emulators that will run on Windows. Using one of them might help.

Get your son to log you in using his machine but your identity.

That tells you (or purports to tell you) how to upload photos from your Apple gadget to iCloud. It doesn't tell you how to use a Windows machine to look at somebody else's photos on iCloud.

It includes:

"Turn on iCloud Photos

Download iCloud for Windows. Open iCloud for Windows. Next to Photos, click Options. Select iCloud Photo Library. Click Done, then click Apply. Turn on iCloud Photos on all of your Apple devices.

You can also choose to use My Photo Stream and iCloud Photo Sharing (Shared Albums), and customize the location of your upload and download folders.

When you turn on iCloud Photos on your PC, My Photo Stream is turned off automatically. If you want to send new photos to your devices that don't use iCloud Photos, you can turn My Photo Stream back on."

Now assuming the uploader has already done the iCloud apple devices bit, the PC bit ought[1] to work.