Rewiring an Urmet door entryphone handset

Jan 18, 2007 6 Replies

I recently took the entryphone system off the wall for skimming, and it suffered a catastrophic accident at some point which resulted in some of the internal wires becoming disconnected and most of the wires from the main door cable. I have now completely disconnected the handset, which I believe is an Urmet 1030 (It's definitely an Urmet, and has the letters RIF. 1030/2B embossed into the inside of the handset cover), and am trying to figure out how to rewire the thing both internally and to the external cable.



Does anybody know if there is a standard colour coding for the wires from the front door? I think there's 5 or 6 wires (I'd need to go back to the property to confirm this), all of varying colour and stripe patterns. Also, I am trying to get hold of an internal wiring diagram that shows both the connections for the door cable and also the internal wiring connections. Does anybody know where I could get this? I have emailed Urmet directly but no response as yet. Google has brought up some stuff but nothing that explicitly shows the wiring for internal and external cn



Many thanks for any advice,



Dave


Is this a single or multiple unit? If single, remove the door unit and check the colours there. I'd expect the tag strip to have matching numbers, etc, to identify the terminals. If a multiple installation, ask to look at a neighbours one?

As regards any internal wiring again looking at a second unit would be the easy way unless a circuit diagram can be found. Otherwise it's a question of working out the circuit of the device yourself. Which could be difficult.

However, a quick Google shows installation manuals are available in PDF format from Urmet's Italian site. But you'd need to know the model.

Doh. I never thought of that! It's a multiple one for a whole tenement. The simple answers are always the best!

Thanks,

Dave

Dave, one other thing if you don't mind - is it safe to work on these things while the whole system is still on? Am I in danger of electrocuting myself?

Cheers,

Dave

Try safelink.co.uk they are very helpful.

No. :-)

It's probably 5 wires, the wires are usually Common, Mic, Speaker, Buzzer, Lock. A button shorts Common and Lock to activate the door release downstairs. Common and Mic should usually be a twisted pair to reduce hum.

In a tenement you are quite likely to find Common, Mic, Speaker, Lock being the same colour (and in parallel across all handsets) but Buzzer may be a different colourn wire as it's the individual call wire to the flat.

On Urmet 1131 and 1132 phones, IIRC

CA is call (buzzer)

1 is speaker 2 is microphone 6 and 10 are common 9 is lock release

Owain

It's low voltage, but if you short something out you might blow the speech unit and knock out the whole system which will not endear you to your neighbours.

Owain

Thanks for the help Owain.

Cheers,

Dave

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