In the 25 years I lived in my last house in southern suburbia I can count
the number of times the lecky went out on the fingers of one heavily
mutilated hand. Since moving to the middle of feckin nowhere in
Aberdeenshire it's been about a dozen times in 18 months.
We started off with a spate of them in 2012, then it settled down for a
while, we had another one last back end and then it went out for an hour and
a half yesterday again. Several have been in the middle of the night where I
only realise it happened because the clock on the cooker is flashing and has
lost its settings when I get up.
I'd assumed it was just some specific fault on a wire local to our little
enclave here which some bugger really ought to get round to fixing properly
but finally I phoned up the power company yesterday when the phone started
working again and it had knocked out the power to 352 houses over a several
mile area and was reported in as "an explosion at the top of a power pole in
He also looked up the previous outage and that was over a wide area too. So
no general problem with our local supply, just sod's law it seems. Branches
falling onto cables etc.
So I'm happy it isn't just my house or its supply but surprised it happens
so often. Is this just a "living in the sticks" sort of thing we have to get
Which make (and maybe model if arsed you can be :) ?
Because it's a very good alternative to a generator - particularly as it
can be "always online".
I was considering a dedicated "generator radial circuit" with an
external input socket (male socket) and a few sockets in key places.
However, as our power failures are typically for no longer than a few
hours (1-2 normally and 6 max) I do wonder if a UPS might be a betetr idea.
Could have the CH, modem/network and fridge/freezer permanently on it.
I've got a couple of those, both saved from being skipped and a 1400,
they're fairly "cold war" design, never see to go wrong. Last time I
replaced the batteries with 3rd party equivalents they seemed a
reasonable price, need doing again and the prices seem to have shot-up.
So for the past 3 months or so I've bypassed them - and noticed how much
power they consume just sitting there (cooking their batteries!).
Of course, last time I used Yuasa ones, now even the "neverheardofem"
brands seem twice the price I paid ...
The 2200's take four batteries each, the 1400 takes a pair, not that I'd
need all three UPSes in use.
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:38:39 +0000, Martin Brown wrote:
The last couple of sets I've bought(*) have come from Value Power
Systems. http://www.vps-ups.co.uk Cheapest place I have found.
(*) The joys of an APC UPS. Well known for cooking their batteries, I
don't much more than 4 years 99.99% standby use from a pair of 12 V 7
AHr batteries. B-)
Thanks! I was just curious. Should be enough to run CH for a while as
well as internetty stuff. Fridge/freezer I'd have to put a power monitor
on - but perhaps they matter less as they will keep for the sort of
failure durations we get.
As long as you don't put much load on it and expect it to run for very
Much better idea:)...
I doubt for that it will run any of those items for that long...
Unless it a very large capacity one. Prime power generation even from a
cheapie genny is a much better bet. UPS's are for just that maintaining
IT type power while the PC does a shutdown..
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:44:00 +0000, tony sayer wrote:
That would be tricky with a "whole house" UPS but one could install a
separate maintained ring and use "chinese"(*) plugs and sockets so
that the kettle/hoover or WHY can't be plugged in.
Also too much load could be the in rush from a motor causing the UPS
to trip out. The in rush from a CRT monitor was enough to trip the
little (750 VA) UPS I have.
That depends on the battery capacity but yes you need *BIG* batterys
to supply 1 kW for any great length of time.
Our genset is 2 kVA runs the fridges, freezers, CH system etc no
problem. I have 2.6 kVA UPS but no batteries for it. One day I'll
equip it with 4 100 AHr or bigger deep discharge batteries. If the in
rushes don't trip it it would be a bit more convient than the genset.
The latter does have the advantage that a trip down to the garage for
25 litres of red will keep it going for over a day.
(*) Looks like a normal 13A plug but the L and N pins are oriented
vertically and the earth horizontal. Not sure they are still
available or the version with a round earth pin and L/N in normal
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 17:18:59 -0800 (PST), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You trust every person likely to be in the house during a power cut
not to plug the kettle into one of these UPS maintained sockets? I
wouldn't, particularly if there are any teenagers or adult females
/ You trust every person likely to be in the house during a power cut not to plug the kettle into one of these UPS maintained sockets? I wouldn't, particularly if there are any teenagers or adult females about.
If fancy sockets are around wouldn't they just use the adaptors provided?
It is a living in the sticks thing.
You might be out for days if we have heavy snow and they have many
faults/can't get out to fix things..
Take due precautions. Open fire/stove, portable generator. Camping gas
It arises out of having overhead power lines.
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