Yup. Couldn't get a non-corrugated bend out of it and ended up sending it back and bought a decent one. Some tools aren't all the same and pipe benders seem to be one such. I think my good one is a Hilmor - it's yellow.
Perhaps that's why they wanted to buy Corus? :)
nightjar > Very complicated plumbing job today, re routing 15mm copper pipe around
You are assuming they were all in one pipe ;-)
Well I not sure who employed hm since no one else was around. But he did well for those six days. Just shows what you can get done without ODPM and HSE regulations. ;-)
I hope you've done your head loss calcs!!!!!! Jon
Sounds like a very appropriate job for using plastic pipes actually - or is there some reason not to?
David
I made up some sample pieces in pipe offcuts, which help with that. I put a reference mark on the bender and lined that up with marks on the pipes, to make a U shape and an S shape. I scratched the marks in, so they wouldn't wear off, although obviously on a working pipe I use a fibre tip pen. Now I can just offer the sample piece up, compare that to what I want and adjust the distance between the marks I put on the pipe I want to bend.
Colin Bignell
That was how I read it, although, on reflection, it could have been two or more.
Colin Bignell
Lobster wrote in news:lzZwh.62009$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe4-win.ntli.net:
If that reply was intended for me, and not MH, I've never used them; I trust copper prolly only because I'm used to it and it's never let me down.
But I've got some runs 9n the loft that _would_ have been a lot easier with plastic, but it was pretty new when I put them in, and I like to let others learn from experience ;-)
mike
Groan. Tell me about it.............
They were on 5 pipes, 2 of which will be boxed in and 2 of which are under a floor.
Mm. Bit like Micro$oft Vista, eh? ;-)
David
Lobster wrote in news:iUhxh.65635$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:
Yup, I've given up all hope of cracking linux in my lifetime (after several tears trying, and I can cope with DOS, so Gawd help _real_ innocents who try it!).
But me 98SE which I love dearly, is beginning to run out of up to date software, so I'll have to move on - prolly to ME or 2K, if I can work out which one is better; I mist confess I'm a bit scared of moving away from a DOS based system, you can solve a _lot_ of probs in DOS.
But I think I'll give Vista a swerve FTTB.
mike
No contest - ME is just 98 with stuff taken out and a makeover to the UI (in reality it ought to have been 98 third edition or "service pack 3" in current MS speak) - from the point of view of support or compatibility with modern software it is hardly any better than 98. Win2K is based on the MT core and hence far more "with it" from a modern software point of view.
When I switched from 98 to Win2k I preserved a dual boot environment so that I had a fallback way to do the things I expected to have difficulty doing under win2k. In reality I found I never needed it. The only casualty of the upgrade was there was no driver support for my then current scanner (unless I wanted to pay silverfast more than the cost of a whole new scanner that is)
If you can accept that you need 512MB minimum rather than 256MB, then WinXP is probably a better Win2k now than Win2K itself. You can turn off much of the visual fluff and end up something that looks and feels like
2k, but with better support, and security. Also better compatibility with older games etc.Wise for now ;-)
John Rumm wrote in news:45c5e671$0$8723$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net:
That's interesting; I've been put off XP because my understanding is you're stuck with what Bill gives you.
I also might try XPlite, as 98lite has been such a good modification to
98SE.(Wow, I've just looked at a couple of sellers sites, and there's dizens of different versions. Also some seem to require existing wndows installations, but I'd prefer to do a clean install on a newly formatted disc - any comments?).
Anyhow, I'll look at it again with XP in mind
mike
The difference between ME and 2K is vast compared to the difference between 2K and XP IYSWIM. You can tweak both Win2K and XP a fair bit. Much depends on what things you want / don't want from them.
After a couple of months use it probably does not make much difference. I have two xp systems, one has evolved from an original Win2K system that itself inherited some stuff going right back to win95. The other was a clean install of XP MCE. In use there is no real feeling of one being that much more crufty than the other,
John Rumm wrote in news:45c64fa2$0$8735$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net:
Thanks for the info, John, but what does it mean in terms of which of the many XP versions you buy - if I buy one that updates 98 surely it wouldn't work if wanted to scrub out the whole computer and stsrt again, as I do with 98 from time to time. It's usually because I've sodded it up, but it's nice to start again with a clean install and clear out the garbage that collects.
I've not found googling helpful, loads of info, but not what I want to know .... twas ever thus (reminiscent of linux adventures, too) :-((
mike
If you buy the "upgrade" version at retail then you can either use it to upgrade an installed OS (and hence inherit its apps and settings), or you can use it to do a clean install. If you go for a clean install then it will prompt you to insert a win98 CD or similar during the install process to verify you have the right to upgrade.
(IIUC you can do both types of install with any of the retail versions[1], but not the OEM ones)
[1] Student / teacher is probably the cheapest if you meet the (lax) requirements.John Rumm wrote in news:45c6a9fa$0$8755$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net:
Thanks, John, that's very helpful
mike
John Rumm wrote in news:45c6a9fa$0$8755$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net:
Thanks for your help, John.
I got the XP upgrade and installed it this morning. An absolute doddle, went like clockwork, the only problem was my Avast antivirus that thought it was still on 98 and sodded up the new installation.
A complete clearout and reinstall fixed that.
It instantly found my modem/router that I've been trying to fire up for a month, cued my inputs, and connected me to the broadband world. It all happened so fast I didn't believe it till I'd tried a few sites!
So so far I'm well impressed
mike
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