Corse you can, it happens all the time with stuff that's just hung on the
isnt allowed to be used anymore like battle axes, claymores, medieval flails
Even the parliamentary mace isnt meant to be used anymore, just carried
around and used as a stage prop to bang on the door with etc. There'd
be hell to pay if some fool in fancy dress broke the door down with it.
Not in my experience.
The pins of the male connector don't protrude beyond the back
of the set which has a slot with just enough clearance for the
female connect to pass through so that the only time that the
pins are exposed is when the connector is removed.
I've vever come acros a connector without a cord grip (usually
moulded serrations in both sides so that the flat flex is
firmly clamped when the fiving screw is tightened.
On Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:36:57 UTC, Terry Casey wrote:
tly not compliant - touchable live pins, no cordgrip. Can be bypassed.
I've not encountered a lot of connectors on the appliance, but IMLE they mo
Some had bare pins sticking out, though a lot were as you say shrouded. Shr
ouded connectors were frequently touchable live when part-way in.
Bulgins were usually unscrewable without a tool, so require a mod to stop t
And that circa 1910 hotplate? It had 3 sticking out pins connected to diffe
ring points of the element. The mains lead had 3 separate 1 pole sockets on
. The power level depended on which pins the L&N sockets were pushed onto.
The remaining pin was of course live. Hopefully you pushed the socket on th
e 3rd green wire onto it, and didn't foolishly connect it to earth in the p
lug. Of course there was no earth conection on the hotplate. But even with
all 3 connectors on you could still touch the live bits.
I've seen tons of old mains connectors that lacked an effective cordgrip. I
t's a frequent problem
I spent 9 years repairing radios and TVs from 1960 - 69, so
saw a wide variety of sets dating back to the early/mid 50s
from numerous manufacturers and never saw a set with exposed
pins. The connectors were all variants of a 5A 2 pin flex
connector, which is exactly what we used on the bench - the
manufacturers special version never left the customer's home.
There was a variant we occasionally saw, a polarised connector
with one standard size pin and one thin pin but a length of
matchstick in the appropriate hole of the female bench
connector resolved that problem!
By the end of the 60s, all manufacturers had moved away from
the detachable mains lead concept and new sets had integral
H yes, the Bulgin P73 and P74 and the later miniature P360 - I
remember them well! What form does the mod take?
Yes, I can recall a number of plugs that were expected to be
fitted with cables much thicker that thin twin flex that left
a lot to be desired!
Fair enough. I have, on very rare occasions, come across knobs
with a short plastic grub screw fitted on top of the metal
screw but I doubt you could find them these days and, of
course, they would need BA threads!
Thinking about it, the knobs must have been specially made too
as you wouldn't normally expect to find a threaded hole in the
There are some where the live chassis is accessible with a regular mark
Perhaps the solution is if that is your thing, to visit all the likely
shops and leave them a card saying if you get any donations of this kind
of kit, please let me know and I will come get it.
(or failing that, offer to do free PAT testing for them on the
understanding you can keep any "interesting" stuff that won't pass the
On 12/03/2019 19:22, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote:
What danger would befall me or others were I to do that? Bear in mind
that I used to buy and install extension cables 25 at a time, and I used
to buy 13A plugs fitted with 3A fuses by the hundred and use them all,
and in fifty years I didn't electrocute or otherwise harm a single person.
On 14/03/2019 17:52, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
My point being twofold. One, that where a risk has been shown to be
effectively non-existent by the situation occurring many times without
harm befalling man or beast then it should be treated that way, and two,
that having assessed and used countless mains extension leads without
harming the afore mentioned man or beast, I am de facto qualified to
test mains extension leads.
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