Part P and fixed kitchen appliances

Roger Mills coughed up some electrons that declared:

Hi,

I think a reasonable summary of changes would be:

30mA RCD protection of all cables unless buried deep or mechanically protected.

In short, stick an RCD on everything.

Volt drops have changed, being 3% of nominal voltage (230V) for lighting and

There are new tables for T+E cables buried in insulation in ceilings which may be helpful - a copy of the OnSite Guide would be worth the money.

To test a cooker circuit, they'll generally need to isolate the cooker:

a) As its presence will mess up continuity tests; b) To protect the cooker when doing L-N 500V tests[1]

So I don't see that having no cooker will invalidate the tests.

I don't know if, pedantically, a cooker final connection counts as notifiable, but personally I'd just say bollocks and do it anyway. Do you want to call an electrician or pay a BNA fee everytime you want to remove and replace the cooker?

I take the same view with ELV circuits in notifiable areas (that includes phones lines and computer networking).

HTH

Tim

Just a thought but is there an issue here with the point at which the room becomes a kitchen? Some might argue that until it contains a cooker, units etc, it's just a room, which must have some bearing on the Part Pee status in terms of what you can do yourself.

Not that I would ever dream of subverting such an important and well thought out piece of legislation....

Interesting thought - but I doubt whether it would work.

I'm sure there will be a requirement somewhere or other which says that if you convert a room into a kitchen, the electrics must be updated to the latest spec for kitchens!

The project includes some building work which is subject to Building Regs, so the electrical part will be included in that, and I can't just ignore it.

The electrician will check as far as the wall plate and does not need to see a cooker. You can connect that up yourself.

On a similar line, an electrician may supply a fused spur for an extractor hood, but the person that actually fits and connects the hood to the fused spur need not be an electrician.

No. They are talking bollocks.

A lot of kitchen fitters use part P to do less work. eg they pretend that it illegal for them to connect the cooker and fan up etc. Less work for the same money.

Adam

Quite probably. Nevetheless, by the book, the installation of a fixed heat producing appliance in a kitchen would be notifiable.

If you want all the paper work, ask the electrician to self-certify the whole lot including the cooker install as one notification at the end.