OT windas 7 OEM discs...

Yes, Adobe are going that way with most of their products.

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Tim Streater
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In message , Dave Liquorice writes

As I understand it, Adobe's new business model is to move totally to subscription for their products, and the latest version of their "Creative Suite" is only available on this basis.

However, they don't seem totally sure of their position, as they have kept the previous version available as a subscription-free purchase.

And the even earlier (and probably best in the case of Audition, which I use) version is (was?) available at no cost on their website .

The argument for subscription software is that it provides a regular income for the company, so they can plan expenditure on development, and it also gets round some insane US law which prevented free updates (upgrades?) of software between versions.

It will be interesting to see how it goes. If I had shares in Adobe, I would sell now.

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Bill

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However the upgrade from CS5 to CS6 seems unavailable now (disappeared a couple of days ago). I think CS6 is going to disappear very rapidly.

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polygonum

I replaced Windows 7 with it on two machines, a desktop and a tablet. Windows 7 is now back on both after four months of wasted time and effort.

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F

How is it possible to care less than not at all?

What he said.

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Huge

But it really is the same once you add classic start or one of the others. You don't have to see "metro".

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dennis

Good point.

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John Williamson

In message , "dennis@home" writes

about Windows 8

Unless you have peripherals that need drivers.

If you are just using it as a glorified typewriter and calculator, it's the same, but for this you might as well change to Linux....... or Apple :-).

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Bill

I don't know, but that is 100% how it feels!

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polygonum

In theory that's supposed to be the case but I've had no trouble re- authenticating a couple of installs of OEM XP after completely rebuilding with a new motherboard.

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Mike Clarke

Yup, they are fake (or grey import etc);-)

Trade price on Win 7 Premium is about £55 + VAT, if you are paying significantly less than that its not legit.

Not usually, its also probably wrong anyway. The standard discs contain loads of drivers, but they will not have all of them. Hence you may need to acquire extra ones elsewhere. The new machine should come with the motherboard CD/DVD, that will have most of what you need. If you have bought one with a discrete graphics card (rather than built in) you may also get a CD/DVD for that.

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John Rumm

MS like to "social engineer" New prices on 8 home versions are comparable to win 7. Pro is quite a bit cheaper than win 7 pro.

They also did a good promo price on win 8 pro in Jan - about £30 a pop. I bought a few then... just installed one on my main day to day machine. With a bit of tweaking you can make it look sensible.

Although it has the naff in your face interface, the actual foundations are solid. (unlike vista say). Hence with some tweaking you can get it usable.

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John Rumm

Same here...

XP allows a certain number of changes in key hardware before needing reactivation, and also time plays a part - the you can get away with more over longer periods.

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John Rumm

If that really is the case you may as well download the freely available W7 Ultimate+key and make genuine crack and save 40 :)

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Mark

Do you mean the same drivers as win7. All but one of the devices I have were using the win7 drivers or the built in win8.

Now only a handful are using win7 drivers.

The fingerprint reader is using a vista driver.

Which device do you have that doesn't have a win7 driver that works under win8?

Neither of those work very well on my touch screen tablet.

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dennis

£50 in Currys (Online)

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Ericp

refused or something else?

It validates at install time, but when Windows boots and tries to phone home for updates, you start to get messages like: "This is not a valid version of Windows!", etc, etc. Then you find that you can't get all the downloads you need, and get annoying messages all the time nagging you to sort it out.

The OEM install disk was genuine, I was certain of that, so I rang up Microshaft to see if it could be sorted out, but all I got was some guy in India who wouldn't help, saying that I shouldn't've been sold the disk and very much implying that I was a criminal for buying it, and who eventually just hung up on me. Which is why never again avoidably will I buy a Microshaft product.

All I can say is: Treat it as any other gamble, by not risking more money for it than you feel you can afford to lose.

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Java Jive

Its fair to say that MS have a very restrictive definition of what they consider "not genuine"... so even genuine product produced by them but for sale in a different market area that that which you bought it in they try to treat the same as outright bootlegs.

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John Rumm

In message , "dennis@home" writes

A bunch of audio interfaces, but specifically my Tascam FW1884 firewire control surface. I have read that it can be made to work, but haven't had the time or inclination to try to work through these instructions (cut and pasted verbatim from a Tascam forum below). Note that the postings on the mentioned RME forum seem to refer to bodging Win7 drivers into Win8 and how this is needed for other devices

"firstly run cmd as administrator then type the following and enter/ exit bcdedit -set loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS then follow these instructions from

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then install fw1884 exe by right click and choose properties/compatibility/then run the trouble shooter/troubleshoot program/tick worked in previous/tick win 7/run and load successfull."

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Bill

Just about ANYTHING that uses the Prolific PL2303 serial chip.

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Andrew May

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