OT: Warranty on replacemant parts

Feb 26, 2025 Last reply: 1 year ago 12 Replies

Yeah, I know I should post on a legal group but someone here might know.



If a car's OEM replacement 12V battery (fitted but a main deaker) fails in under 2 years when the manufacturers warranty on the battery is 2 years (in a new car), does the replacement also enjoy two years of warranty?



Tim



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tim+ snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:m28grkF2du8U1 @mid.individual.net:

In short nope, you are covered until the end of the warranty on the original item. Otherwise you could end up with continual replacements ad infinitum should the (ongoing) replacements repeatedly fail to meet the expected warrantied life.

This is a not uncommon question on UKLM.

Repeated replacements suggest either a faulty charging system or an ongoing manufacturing defect. In the latter case, the manufacturer SHOULD be held responsible for the typical normal life of a battery and not just the warranty period.

Is this not the latent defect vs wear and tear argument?

I would say a warranty is from a date of purchase or in this case fitting.

If you got a refund or credit for the old battery then purchased a new then the warranty starts from the new contract purchase date.

Otherwise it's 2 years from the initial and only purchase date.

Why did this only last 2 years? Is this a stop-start car? Hybrid? My last battery lasted 9 years.

I note your "SHOULD". Of course, getting the manufacturer to acknowledge that they have any liability is quite a different matter.

I'd say they're obliged to make a repair within the initial 2 years of the car. You don't get a new 2 year warranty if they replace the battery at 2 years minus one day, but if they did that and the next day the new battery failed, you could argue they didn't actually make a proper repair.

ie the problem being the action they took within warranty wasn't fit for purpose - within the warranty period they fitted a faulty item. Otherwise they could fit any old junk to get them over the 2 year line and then say 'sorreeee warranty expired, byeee'. But if it's a case of the replacement working for a while then it's harder to argue they should be responsible for a fault which developed in all probability after the car's warranty expired.

Theo (IANAL)

It’s a full EV. These paradoxically have issues with their management of

12V batteries as apparently, without the fairly regular high current discharges they’re prone to developing internal “whiskers” (or so I’m told).

My one also seems to run a pretty high charging voltage most of the time (14.5V) which I believes isn’t good for them. I had to replace mine after

3 years.

Go to any EV forum and search for 12V battery failure and you’ll get masses of hits. It’s a very common issue, with some manufacturers cars being worse than others.

Tim

Sounds plausible

I though 14.0V +/- 0.5V was about normal for an alternator? You'd expect an EV to charge the 12V battery at exactly what they design it for.

In which case the manufacturer should either be fixing their battery management or sourcing better batteries!

Tim

In my case, the alternator voltage is more like 27V - it is an ex-military, 24V, Land Rover though :)

I have a Prius, and it used to go through 12v batteries every 2-3 years. A combination of periods of not driving it, a slow 4A charge when I am driving it, and leaving the lights on. According to Prius forums the OEM AGM battery isn't so good and it tends not to last. Symptom is that it can't open the high voltage contactors so no traction.

I replaced it with a UPS battery from:

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(touch wood) it's been trouble free. The difference seems to be it can supply contactor current spikes better at lower states of charge than the OEM battery.

Theo

I think it was this one:

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Happens to be <50% of the price of the OEM battery, which is nice. I bodged up terminal posts with some bolts and penny washers and it's been fine.

Theo

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