OT : Starbucks new policy

Jan 15, 2025 Last reply: 1 year ago 17 Replies

Starbucks is now reported to be about to insist that anybody using its facilities buys something. I would in principle have some sympathy with this, after all, the facilities cost something to maintain.



But: I used to fly frequently out of Detroit Metro Airport. There was the huge modern terminal, complete with a mini Metro line, built for NorthWest Airlines (now part of Delta), and a little old terminal where everybody else flew from. For a morning flight, one had to check in, go through security, and then twiddle one's thumbs for over an hour. There was one coffee stall open, a Starbucks. You just wanted something to wet your whistle, but not enough to require a subsequent trip to the toilets, or heaven forbid, a trip to the toilets while on board the 'plane. These were not large aircraft. The coffee stall had a display of various cup sizes, ranging from small to medium to large to gigantic. Of this range, the smallest on offer was a 'Tall', which was



12 ounces of coffee, most of which had to be either thrown away, or left for the cleaners to deal with. What a waste, and what a rip-off. The 'Short', 8 ounces, would have been fine, or even the 'Demi', 3 ounces, for any Italians.

So I have no sympathy with Starbucks wishing to save their money, when they are good at extracting ours from our pockets.


They have a menu-hack item available as an 8oz "Short" cup, but it's never advertised. There's also a 3oz "Demi" cup but that's just for espresso shot(s), not any other drink.

I think you can ask for a filter coffee for $cheap. They don't advertise it.

Anyhow, at an airport the toilets are presumably run by the airport not the franchisee, and this policy won't apply?

Theo

I used not to, but I think it's changed for the better. (too many EV charging points are beside Starbucks, so I got a bit forced to re-try.)

No, I was just commenting on my experience with Starbuscks as a vendor of coffee. I, and many other early morning flyers wanted a small coffee, but it wasn't available at the only coffee seller in the terminal.

Yes, I listed those in my OP. but they certainly were not available/advertised in the terminal. The display showed size(s) smaller than the 'Tall', but they could not/would not serve them.

One time flying a very small plane from a very regional airport, they gave us all (excellent) free coffee while we waited. They didnt tell us the plane had no toilet...

As my brother says, I prefer coffee.

They are, or at least were, also good at avoiding UK tax by pretending, quite legitimately, to be operating as a franchise in the UK and repatriating most of their profits as tax-deductible royalties.

The coffee stall had a display

YouTube: Small is Tall.

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Sometime in the late 20th century, America opened up the skies to smaller airlines. Literally, I checked in my bag at BrittAir, to a guy at the counter, I later saw him carrying our bags out to the

15-seater 'plane, and then he changed his hat and got into the pilot's seat and flew us away. There was no co-pilot, and no room for any cabin service, and certainly no onboard toilets. The saying "A Wing and a Prayer" came to mind.

THere's a story about a LoganAir flight (Scottish islands) many years ago, with the pilot separated from the (few) passengers by just a curtain. No specific staff uniform.

Pilot made himself scarce before boardding, then arrived and just sta in a spare passenger seat, constantly looking at his watch and complaining (no other aircraft, and it was a very short flight). Eventually he said, exasparated "Sod this, I'm not waiting any longer" and climbed into the pilot's seat and took off.

Some of the passengers knew him by sight, but some didn't...

Nice one!

When my wife and I were on a local flight from Fairbanks, Alaska, to north of the Arctic Circle, the co-pilot told us to look out of the window so we could see the dotted line as used on maps to show the position on the ground of the Circle.

I flew on one like that! ISTR that it had de Havilland propellers. The pilot flew with the cabin door open, and it was easy to see we were flying at 18000ft, and right next to the altimeter was a notice saying “Air conditioner not to be used above 14000ft”. The aircon was on…but we landed OK at Dulles.

All cups are the same size

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Yes, I know it can be deceiving with tapered cups with a different final diameters. The short measure is not linear with the depth between the top of a cup and the top of the liquid if the cups are a different diameter and with a different taper.

Best way to deceive is not show whether the larger cups are empty at the start.

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