[OT] Now there really is no need for the BBC

[JoeJoe]

[Brian Gaff]

He has also done some stuff for Sky in the past of course, so the term ditches is a little unfair, he is just free lance like most people these days. However, I'm sure that eventually whatever it is will appear on free to air. I am not a great lover of subscription things from private companies, as they can turn up the squeeze money out of their subscribers at any time wit any government overview. Look at the trains. Brian

[Cursitor Doom]

That's that, then. The *only* thing the BBC did outstandingly well has gone. Time to axe the telly tax; let the public decide what the organisation is worth.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

One of those who claims to only ever watch wild life programmes. How sad is that?

[Another John]

Do you actually think that it is David Attenborough who makes those programmes? From devising, planning, filming, directing, through to producing?

I really wish that you were about 30 years younger than you are (I know-- so do you) so that you could reap the benefits of BigCommercial being in absolute control of broadcast media. "We buy up your [sports, drama, "news", whatever] from those who were providing it free, and

*then we sell it back to you*, **at ever-increasing prices** ... and you just love it, don't you?"

And stop moaning on about the frigging "Licence Fee - a compulsory tax, squandered on crap that I personally don't like". It's about 240 pounds a year -- 20 pounds a month -- less than what you put in your car's fuel tank every week. And *less than half* of what the average Sky user pays per month.

And Sky does not provide radio (a dozen, immaculate, stations); the best website in the world, bar none; and does not cater for minority interests [unless they can see a fast buck]. And would never, ever, set an example of how to make exemplary broadcasting that everyone in the world would aspire to imitate.

FFS, Cursitor, grow up! Oh -- it's too late, isn't it?!

John

P.S. I don't like much of what the Beeb is doing at the moment. But I can see their worthy aims, and I am 100% certain that no commercial organisation would even go near following the BBC agenda.

P.P.S You said "let the public decide what the organisation is worth." You mean: have a referendum? Like Arron Banks & Co did?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

You have to remember with these Tories it's all about making a profit out of anything. Even where that profit goes to foreign owned companies. After all, paying through the nose for 'choice' is far more important than value for money.

Actually £150. Which also pays for BBC radio.

[Cursitor Doom]

Which is *exactly* what the BBC did with the Formula 1 rights they held: sold them to C4 and Sky! You're a pillock as well as a troll (and a conspicuous ignoramus).

[soup]

Yup pretty much, them and Doctor who but I probably shan't watch that much longer as the latest series is crap.

Side note :- No problem with the Doctor being female (she is a 1,500 year old alien) but the actress that plays the doctor doesn't seem right for that part (seemingly she is a very good actress but all I have seen her in is DW and she doesn't seem right in that) and the stories have been abysmal so far this series.

[Cursitor Doom]

They've politicised it. Not just this series but several previous ones too. They're more interested in brainwashing the masses with their Globalist-Leftist propaganda than creating anything meaningful.

[JoeJoe]

...for 50x as many channels

??? You need to "go out" more.

and does not cater for minority

Many can imitate had they had(half) the budget the BBC has

[The Natural Philosopher]

It was always politicised right frim the 1970s when I stopped watchin g it. It was always brave collectives of humans fioghting agians evil organsatatins and psecies who opressed them. It was in short a series of Marxist fairy tales, the irony being that the more politically correct and marxist it got, the more opprsessive and dull it got.

The Left, last time I knew theitr protagnosists intimately - and I men proper dyed in the wool commitre students - they told me that they *had been instructed* to go into any public sector or media job they could get, with the express purposes of politicising it, Prime targets were education, especially primary and university, journalism and media, and the whole performing arts profession.

Two generations later, the takeover is complete.

[Another John]

Oh aye -- how could I make *that* mistake?! Perhaps because some make such a noise about it that it often *sounds* much bigger that it is.

150.5 pounds per annum - I just had to look it up. So: less than a third of what the average Sky user pays.

J.

[Another John]

:-D I might be a pillock (although you yourself have no evidence for that), but I'm not the troll around here.

And if you think that someone not knowing anything about Formula 1 brands them as an ignoramus ... wow.

BTW: if the Beeb does something which you endorse, i.e. sells off an asset, rather than simply waiting for the contract to end, when the asset will be worth nothing, and they will have to wave bye-bye to it, as the owners of the "sport" toddle as fast as they can towards the bigger bucks ... why are you so consistently and vituperatively down on the BBC? Because they must do everything that _you_ want, and nothing that _you_ do not want ... because you are undemocratically forced to pay your whopping 150.5 pounds a year to them?

Best wishes Going back under my bridge now,

John

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Quite simple. Anything which doesn't set out to make a profit from its customers is not to be tolerated. And should be abolished.

[Cursitor Doom]

They just have to politicise so much of their output. Even the Remembrance Day commemorations weren't safe this year; even *this* got exploited. Hijacking such a sensitive day when people are trying to remember relatives and friends who died in various conflicts. So on all their rotten TV and radio stations we had one guest after another extolling the 'virtues' of federalism and the EU and how it's kept the peace in Europe for the last 70+ years when *all* the credit for that rightfully belongs solely to NATO. The BBC constitutes a Globalist

5th Column and they need to have their funding withdrawn for flagrant abuse over many decades of their trusted position. Scum!

[The Natural Philosopher]

Exactly. There is no balance. We are in a state of civil war and the BBC has taken sides.

[Cursitor Doom]

Just because it's cheap s**te rather than expensive s**te doesn't make it any more legitimate. The cabbages who watch Sky can always decline to renew their subs and forego Sky channels; not so with the BBC. Watch nothing but ITV without paying the BBC extortionists for all their s**te you're not watching and you can still end up in prison. It is *grossly* inequitable and unconscionable.

[Cursitor Doom]

It's called the 'Long March Through the Institutions' and it was also targeted the church, the family, and marriage.

Fortunately not! We finally are starting to see some long overdue push- back around the world. Hungary has seen this all before of course, under the hated Béla Kun government from 1920. They know damn well where it always ends up, too: in a bloodbath.

[Handsome Jack]

Another John posted

No, it's not that.

It's that.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

No different to paying your taxes towards the NHS etc even if you never need it - using exclusively private health care. Or education. Or PT, when you go everywhere by car.

But then the extreme right wing does everything in its power to get out of paying his way in society.