OT: "Mixed up the brake and accelerator"?!?

Feb 19, 2020 Last reply: 6 years ago 128 Replies

In a way it is. Consider precision manoeuvring at low speed. On a manual you use the clutch to inch as the accelerator hasn't got te control. On an auto if you try that you do what my mate did. Revved up to back up a slope, and smashed into the closed garage doors. The brake on an auto functions like a clutch on a manual. Controls the power fed to the wheels.

In a similar vein use of the brake and accelerator together will force a kickdown and makes for smoother and faster driving - mid corner leave the brake on and feed power in, the kickdown happens then release the brake to accelerate away...

It takes me less than 5 minutes to get used to a manual again. You don't dump the first 39 years of your motoring existence that easily.

In similar vein I prefer to drive a RHD car 'on the continent' because I don't have to learn a new car AND remember the 'new' rules: I spent a lot of time over there years ago and it all just 'clicks into place' as soon as I get off the ferry...

Total tosh. See above. It is a vital safety feature to left foot brake. Ther is no otherrway to control the power when takjiong off 'on the torque convertor'.

On my XF its not something you can use for a hill start. Its driven on and off by an electric motor. You HAVE to hold the car on the foot brake and feed in power on the other foot. Unless you want the ugly experience of revving up with the handbrake on, and then, on releasing it, having a completely uncontrolled take off.

Up to the individual. Some are happy with both, some not.

If you can remember you have a clutch which needs to be used when driving a manual, why not remember which foot to brake with too?

Not on my auto. Touch the footbrake when manoeuvering and it disconnects the drive.

That's interesting. I've only driven on the right in an LHD car (in the USA). I found I adjusted remarkably well, though it was in the late 90s so I was 20 years younger. The only time I had a momentary problem was turning left at a traffic light which didn't have a filter lane. And of course trying to work out who the F had priority at a 4-way-stop, because I'd never encountered a junction before where priority is determined by order of arrival rather than position on the road, so I'd never paid any attention to who was there first. On the other hand, I found the big roundabout ("rotary") as you go from mainland Massachusetts onto Cape Code a piece of piss. I stopped a few miles further on and another guy stopped in the same place and complemented me on my "awesome" driving, especially when he heard that I wasn't even American. Americans encounter them so rarely that they are apprehensive of them.

I'm not sure I'd be as confident in a RHD car, because I'd be on the wrong side of the car so I wouldn't have such good visibility for overtaking, especially as a (passenger) mirror that is further away has a smaller field of view, in that you'd have to move a very long way to make a different bit of the road come into view, whereas it's a smaller movement if the mirror is on the driver's side. Maybe when I actually tried it, rather than theorising about it, I'd find it came naturally to me.

Did you find that because you were in a familiar car, you had more difficulty adjusting to the fact that you were now driving on the opposite side, whereas in an LHD car the very fact that everything was the opposite way round helps to reinforce that the rules of the road are the opposite way round.

Did you drive on your own, or did you have a passenger to act as your "overtaking eyes"?

Back when the brake pedals were often the full width that would have been occupied by the brake and clutch I embarrassed myself more than one when driving an automatic by attempting to throw the clutch out with my left foot and getting the brake pedal. After you scrape yourself off the dash...

I do not shift to neutral when stopped in traffic. It's a habit carried over from bikes. On a bike you want to be able to instantly get out of harm's way when you see the person coming up behind you isn't showing any signs of stopping.

That's not a problem I've encountered in the last 50 years or so.

One obvious difference is that if you forget about the clutch when driving the manual, normally the worst that happens is you stall and that?s just a nuisance.

If you forget to move the foot from the accelerator to the brake when driving the auto, you can have an accident.

No.

I've done both but never relied on a passenger.

If dropping back and moving over a lot doesn't give enough visibility to overtake, then I simply don't.

*shrug* you live in the USA. Its big and its flat.

Really? It is big, you got that right, some of it is flat. Check out our topography though. Once you do, you won't make stupid statements.

I drove a LHD drive car in GB for over 25 years, it wasn't inconvenient driving in London where many streets are one way and traffic comes from all directs ? mostly at snail pace. But 80% of my driving was to and from Italy where there was certainly an advantage in seeing what was about to come flying round the next bend. But having moved to Somerset LHD became a bit more of an inconvenience, the advantage abroad being countered by the increased mileage here. So now for the first time in over 30 years I own a RHD, it is easy to adapt to the different driving position and the gear stick being in the other hand. But whereas driving LHD here was never really difficult, I did find the drive the Italy in a RHD last year rather more stressful.

Oh, sweet Jesus... Never have been to Montana, have you? I'll admit the eastern part is flat, but I don't live there.

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True you can't drive to the top. You park at 6200' and start walking. Tell me about Ben Nevis again?

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Even where I grew up back east had a mountain or two... No, I never did the 46, just Marcy, Giant, Tabletop, and a couple of others.

I bet I have travelled more in te USA than you have

Yes. I have been to Montana. And Utah and Nevada and New Mexico and Massachusetts and Virginia and Iowa and Ohio and Washington and New York and.......a lot of other places.

I've driven over the Sierra Nevada at 10,000 ft too.

But Whilst there what I didn't see were traffic lights on steep slopes,. In fact the high and steep places are not populated at all.

You need a mulholland drive or laurel canyon for THAT. And Id fer sure be using a left foot brake on those.

I'll admit the

Its a standard mistake for Americans to think that other people are as ignorant about America as they are ignorant of the rest of the world.

I travelled coast to coast in 1974. I probably know it better than you do.

So you'll have seen all of it then? In the same way as a tourist does the UK in a couple of weeks?

When you make a statement about the country being big and flat, perhaps you might want to throw in an emoji or you sound merely ignorant.

My parents were driving but I traveled coast to coast for the first time in 1952.

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I don't think I've been to Argentina but some of those little towns aren't too memorable. As far as Canada goes, I've been from Prince Rupert to the end of the Gaspe peninsula. So you made one little trip in '74? You haven't even started.

No. I have made many trips since then MOST of the densely populated areas are flat.

Funny thing about that... People tend to build cities on flat ground unless there are in LA, San Francisco, Seattle, or some other place where there were other considerations.

Conversely, going by square miles, most of the flat area is sparsely populated.

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