OT Grenfell tower fire

harry · 2017-09-01T06:35:40+00:00

It is important to know the truth and not the "false news" being peddled! : Grenfell inferno One hates to be seen to be attempting to score points morbidly, but occasionally the fake-newsers need to be put back in their place. 1. The block of flats was run not by the Council but by KCTMO. This body is made up of 8 Tenants, 4 Councillors and 3 Independent Members. 2 Labour hold the seat that the block is situated in. 3 Labour run the London Council who manage the underfunded London Fire Service. 4 Emma Coad the sitting Labour MP for that ward also sat on the KCTMO. 5 The advice to stay put which Sadiq Khan has been so vocal about was given by the London Fire Service. 6 The decision to change contractors during the refurb was made by KCTMO. 7 The decision not to spend an additional £138k on fitting sprinklers was again KCTMO. 8 The decision to create ALMO organisation such as the KCTMO was made under the Right To Manage legislation passed in 2002 as part of the Commonhold an d Leasehold Reform Act. 9 This was put in place to give leaseholders and tenants a greater say and the ability to self-manage, which in some circumstances has clearly proven to be flawed. 10 Which Govt was in a charge when this law was passed? It was Labour. 11 Sadiq Khan as mayor of London produced a report to say that the fire service did not need further funding. 12 Emma Coad elected Labour MP was on the board of the Tenant Management group who are being accused of not listening to tenants. It's a modern lynch mob encouraged by bitter Labour MPs who, having lost a close election, want to destroy an elected government for a chance of a second election. This has nothing at all to do with the Conservative Government nor its current leader. The current protests are being organised by the Far-Left to justify their own ends (much like the riots in the USA).

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Robin 9 years ago

I would have thought that as a director of a company you would have known that all directors must register an address for correspondence.

I do not blame them for not publishing their residential addresses given they could then end up with 10,000 tenants etc knocking on their doors.

And I rather resent the suggestion that I would have been so stupid to suggest he ask them if they live in tower blocks if they had published their residential addresses. But then I suppose you rather wanted to show how clever you are. And of course in the process show that you are too lazy to have bothered to look to see their published addresses.

Best from those who stood. We do not in this country force people to serve against their will.

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Dave Plowman (News) 9 years ago

And they were so good at doing their job the actual tenants found it necessary to set up an unofficial resident's organisation. As our US cousins would say, go figure.

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tabbypurr 9 years ago

I know a discussion not worth having when I see one.

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Fredxxx 9 years ago

A question was being asked. I don't see your logic either.

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Roland Perry 9 years ago

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20:43:20 >> In message , at

I don't know if their status as members of the housing association confers those same obligations as company director.

Are you confirming they haven't got published addresses, or just busking?

Do you mean "hadn't"?

If you've looked, and seen they are published, why so lazy as to hedge around that, rather than post a link?

A rather small talent pool.

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Robin 9 years ago

Who said anything about "members of the housing association" - indeed what "housing association"? That seems to reveal a total ignorance of the status and governance of the KCTMO. But I'll help illuminate your ignorance a little. They are company directors. That's why I referred to them as directors.

Did you miss the difference between "residential addresses" and "published addresses"? After all, directors do not have to give their residential address these days - as evidenced by the 2 different addresses given by you for your directorships.

And who's lazy when you can't even stir yourself to learn KCTMO's legal status and look at its list of its directors?

I assume you are aware of the ratio of candidates to vacancies in recent elections. (The lists were of course published.) So why not share that knowledge? Can you also share how you know the talents of the candidates?

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Roland Perry 9 years ago

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10:54:33 on Mon, 4 Sep 2017, Robin remarked:

Gosh, you've got out of bed the wrong aide today! A little more information up front, and a little less arguing for the sake if it, would go a long way.

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Robin 9 years ago

That's actually not a bad attempt to divert attention from the your absence of answers. But coming on top of your previous display of ignorance of the KCTMO and its directors I'm happy to leave others to judge who was "just busking" (a.k.a. "making it up as you go along").

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