OT: Garbage Data Used to Support Climate Change Hoax

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

Total red herring. The surface pressure is hundreds of atmospheres. The water all boiled away aeons ago, and it's far closer to the sun than we are.

It's all just ArtStudent CrapTalk.

Billions of people in China and India and Africa want electricity, clean water, transport, air-conditioned schools and hospitals, all the stuff we have. And they will burn coal and oil and gas to get it. If we go all-electric and live off erratic wind and solar and eat millet instead of beef, we'll be basically in the noise.

CO2 is good stuff, and we'll get lots more.

It's just plant food. Anyone dumb enough to worry about it should press their government to plant more trees.

Earth has been above 6000 PPM CO2 in ages where life flourished.

I'm thinking 800 or so would be good.

So somebody can't decide if the Heartland Institute disputes a claim about smoking, or a claim about secondhand smoke. "Extremism" is the inability to make distinctions, and it's a word the left loves to use but doesn't understand.

Before 1990 we had a few hundred 'climate scientists.' Then federal funding increased 15x from 1990 to 1995 and more since. Now 'thousands of climate scientists all agree.'

No doubt those thousands include not only those who changed fields because there's more money in it, and those such as biologists of dubious reputation who couldn't get a grant to study diabetes unless they promised to sudy the 'connection between diabetes and climate change', but also the technicians who install weather stations and operate ice core drills. Meanwhile the actual scientists who actually did study the climate before seem to be split, but mass media only interviews those who are recommended in press releases.

Lefties also like to quote Eisenhower's warning about the military industrial complex, but like to forget his warning about "public funding of the academy." They seem to think there is something special about making weapons that drives corruption, as if billions in public money to make dishwashers would not result in manufacturers lobbying for more funding.

Even if it were possible to double the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere it would quite quickly come down again of its own accord. It's been around 390ppm now for at least 150 years, despite all the monumental quantities of polution we've generated in that same time-frame.

How odd that it hasnt since the industrial revolution.

Bare faced lie

Irrelevant.

Oh no, not another lost argument!

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag with why Putin invaded the Ukraine.

I wish people wouldn't call CO2 "pollution."

It's worse than that. He claims to have spent a lot of time and money on getting of peer-reviewed scientific papers from the 1890's, which report high - if erratic - CO2 measurements taken in laboratories heated by coal fires in cities heated by coal fires, lit by burning coal gas, and housing small, but horribly inefficient coal-fired electricity generators

He goes on to rejects the much better and faster and more recent measurements made by physical methods. Charles Keeling used automated infra-red absorbtion spectroscopy back in 1958 and could make enough reliable measurements fast enough to realise that he had to put his CO2 observatory at the top of Manua Loa on Hawaii to get stable and reproducible results.

According to Cursitor Doom, Charles Keeling was already part of a world wide conspiracy to foist anthropogenic global warming on the world.

If you happen to share Cursitor Doom's addiction to utterly preposterous conspiracy theories,you might even take him seriously.

Sorry, Bill, I never said any such thing. And I've never even heard of any Charles Keeling.

No, he got the idea that the atmospheric CO2 level was as high as it is now entirely from just one book and an antique edition of britannica which got it wrong and has since been updated in later editions.

He even stupidly ran the line that the amended britannica entry was forced on britannica by the climate change brigade and that only antique books have any value, not the internet.

And that was what forced britannica to fix their erroneous entry

I haven't noticed anyone that stupid.

Absolute rubbish, Bill. You obviously have me confused with someone else. I put together a very short synopsis of the *documentary* evidence from print sources for those who can't be bothered to read the whole thing which I also made available online if anyone wants to see it.

Here's the short-cut evidence which clearly shows CO2 has remained at broadly the same level over the past 160 years - in clear contradiction to everything we are told today. It's only a 10 minute read:

You're citing online sources which aren't worth jack. That's why I bought a ton of books and did my research the hard way - the *only* reliable way. Contrary to your hockey stick graph, my reference books show no noteworthy variation over the course of the 20th century, and unequivocally no sustained departure from 380ppm over the past 160 years. No matter how much CO2 was belched out during the most polluting century in human existence, the surplus was automatically re-absorbed by the plants and oceans, which keep these levels in perfect balance. Consequently, there is NO need for all this climate alarmism. It *has* to be a con job; a scam. The problem is 99.9% of people simply don't have the time to look into it properly as I did and just rely on the BS they get from the TV and radio. It's a *huge* unreported scandal.

I think it's worse than that. Almost everyone has been conditioned to accept authority unconditionally. They find it difficult to even understand the concept of questioning what they are told on the TV.

The climate change thing has been around for half a century at least (though originally it was an ice age coming) so most people were originally fed it at school.

But look at the government/WHO COVID narrative, which only appeared in

Well, I was vaccinated and stil caught Covid, But - it was no more than a bad cold. I only needed a day in bed to sleep it off. I hate to think what the effect would have been without vaccination. I knew at least one person

- my own age - who died of it!

I agree. Logically, to keep the elitists happy, vaccination should be avoided, and the money just transferred to the US.