OT: Farewell to UK coal

[bert]

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

Another of Scargill's triumphs - splitting one of the most united work forces in the country and getting them to fight amongst themselves.

[kshy]

Destroying the industry they work in doesn?t do that.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

You can make whatever judgement you like. It's up to that union to decide who is its 'boss' or whatever. Luckily.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Then I ask again. How come those 'greedy' miners weren't the best paid workers in the land?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Absolutely dennis. A few militants could easily control thousands of men who earned their living in a hard and dangerous job. Lily livered the lot of them. Not one ball between them. Or could that be you?

[tony sayer]

In article , kshy scribeth thus

Let's see now. Suppose there was a large deposit of good quality coal in a readily accessible area to get to, no mining way out to sea or such all in stable ground unworked ground, all as good as it gets.

Question would any company go and mine that coal and be able to sell it and make a profit from doing so in 2015?..

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Probably not while gas is readily available.

[dennis]

They certainly weren't the worst and were demanding bigger and bigger rises each year.

[dennis]

Probably could if they didn't have the miners union and used automation.

[dennis]

Its a matter of fact that intimidation was used by the miners union so you are obviously insane to believe it wasn't. You can even see new reports of hundreds of miners intimidating other miners as they try to get to work. You have just lowered yourself to the level of an Ausie and will be treated as such.

[kshy]

That isn't going to happen in Britain today, all of those have been found and exploited long ago now.

Yes. That happens in other parts of the first world today. Places that are a lot further away from where it is used than Britain is. And the price of coal was a lot higher in real terms at the time when Scargill was destroying that industry so dramatically.

[Syd Rumpo]

There are many such places, and what's more the coal is often stored in convenient bags.

Cheers

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In times of high inflation, hardly unusual?

Tell me, harry, were you happy to live on the same wage year after year in those days? Or are you simply like most other union bashers - expect to get a decent pay rise always, not not want others to?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

If it is a matter of fact, where are the prosecutions?

What you tend to 'see' is one or two so called activists which are said to have intimidated hundreds.

Of course feeling ran high when some wanted to break a strike. Often after being paid to do so by the meja.

What's an Ausie, dennis?

[bert]

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

Depends how you define decent.

[bert]

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

For what offence?

[tony sayer]

In article , kshy scribeth thus

In case you've missed it, it was a hypothetical situation to prove a point..

Like where, Europe?.. Deep mined coal not the dragged off the surface open cast type?..

[kshy]

That is obviously relatively close to where it would be used.

Yes, there is deep mined coal in places like Australia and the US.

[tony sayer]

In article , kshy scribeth thus

So are you saying that other counties can deep mine coal and its cheaper than importing open cast mined coal?..

[kshy]

Yes, Australia and the US clearly do.

Neither of those import any coal.