OT: Driving Licence

As I am approaching 70, I now need to renew my Driving Licence, and see that I have a decision to make about the additional classes that I will lose, unless I submit the medical form.
Right now the biggest outfit I actually drive is a family car plus small touring caravan. I can't really envisage wanting a motor home, and even if I did, not one over 3.5 tonnes.
How have other seniors dealt with the decision? What does it cost to get the medical form completed?
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On 03/07/2018 09:48, Chris J Dixon wrote:

I decided that. for me, driving anything over 3.5 tonnes or minibuses was not worth the trouble of getting a medical. Cost of completing the medical form (which needs to be renewed every three years) is a matter for your GP, although the government currently recommends there is no charge.
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If the OP is happy to stay at 3.5 tonnes then there is no need for any medical input. I wanted to keep my minibus licence for outings with a pensioner group I am involved with. I think it was ?120 and the laugh was the GP practice was not equipped to take payments. So I had to give them cash. Unfortunately the eye site test for a minibus is the same as for an HGV or a PSV and whereas mine is good enough for a van it's not good enough for a van with 16 seats in. The logic escapes me. So I would say to the OP have a word with your optician first to check your eyesight is good enough.
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On 03/07/2018 11:17, bert wrote:

Interestingly, I would fail the eyesight test for driving a minibus, but the CAA are perfectly happy for me to fly a light aircraft with the correction I have.
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I thought the eyesight test I took when I reached 70 (I wanted to keep my trailer towing licence in particular) was ridiculous. The test card was only about two or three meters away on the other side of the room so I needed to wear glasses to read it (passed the test with no problems) but if I'd not been able to see things at a greater distance the test wouldn't have detected that at all.
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Yes I had sight, well hearing of some proposed changes to driving licences generally maybe in the next ten years around two things. field of vision and reflex times. I can understand why both are important, but find it a little odd that now in the age of semi autonomous vehicles, that they are worrying about the driver more! Personally I can think of many cyclists who should never be let loose on one. Brian
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I just let mine lapse. Very little likelihood of driving a large vehicle now retired.
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2018 13:58:43 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Not a problem for me - can't drive anything big now I'm monocular!
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About £50 if I remember right, at a specialist doctor rather than one's GP who will charge an arm and a lget to do it.
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Is this a new procedure? My 70+ friend has no recollection of it.
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On 03/07/2018 18:53, Scott wrote:

Has your friend got a photo licence? If so, they expire every ten years (which a number of drivers overlook) or at age 70, after which they expire every three years.
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She did renew. She cannot recall any class restriction being imposed. I wondered when this arrangement started.
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Over 4 years ago at least. 2013 I think http://www.automotional.com/files/downloads/D.%20Lic%20factsheet%20Jan%20 2013.pdf The aim was supposedly to harmonise the format of licences but of course they had to add more restrictions. Must pass the EU thickness test.
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I *think* you may have had to apply for the class covering small trucks etc (which was not tested, just added to your licence) If you never did, you'd not notice any difference.
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On 04/07/2018 17:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

When I did my car test trailers and up to 7.5 tonnes were automatically covered (also road rollers, IIRC). You didn't have to apply separately.
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On 04/07/2018 17:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I had classes C1 C1E D1 and D1E added automatically, as grandfather rights. My first licence was a little booklet. It all depends how long ago the driver passed their test.
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:54:27 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"

I thought it was to do with 'grandfather rights'. If you passed your test before a certain date, you were allowed to drive a bigger range of vehicles. In other words, when the change was made it was not made retrospective.
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Pre-1998 paper-only licenses expire at age 70 too.
An EU directive requires them to all be replaced by photocards by 2030 IIRC, which means some peoples' old paper licenses will cease to be valid before the expiry date printed on them. (This may change due to recent events of course.)

When a paper-only license was changed to a photocard license in the early days, many people lost their grandfathered rights. This was not deliberate, but because DVLA were not reading the old licenses carefully, and just granting what a then current driving test would give you. People who noticed this within 8 weeks could get it fixed, but most people didn't and lost those classes. After 8 weeks, DLVA no longer had any record of them and could not add them back. There were many cases where HGV drivers lost their HGV classes, and had to stop driving until they took the test again. Employers' photocopies of the original licenses were not acceptable evidence of the lost classes.
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On 04/07/2018 21:50, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

This and original documents going missing when posted is what has lead me to believe that we should have government offices dotted around the country, whose only purpose is to take certified electronic copies of people's documents and then email them to the required departments. No more sending off driving licences, passports, log books, chequesa, etc., never knowing if they will arrive or, if they do, whether they will be lost by the department. They could also provide a commerical service to do the same thing for businesses.
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 22:02:19 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

Also other services. For my OAP(ension) what I had to post - and even more with what came back - was a fraudster's wet dream! I'm still peeved at getting the driving licence at 70: I had to post many documents - again useful for fraud - and answer lots of questions just to /replace/ the one that I'd had for 54 years. I was born in England, of English ancestry, but still had to prove evrything. To add insult, if I'd had an immigration card that would have been sufficient.
Anyway, govinmunt offering a service - what you on?!
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