They're relying on the International Agency for Research on Cancer
"For the herbicide glyphosate, there was limited evidence of
carcinogenicity in humans for non-Hodgkin lymphoma. The evidence in
humans is from studies of exposures, mostly agricultural, in the USA,
Canada, and Sweden published since 2001. In addition, there is
convincing evidence that glyphosate also can cause cancer in laboratory
animals. On the basis of tumours in mice, the United States
Environmental Protection Agency (US EPA) originally classified
glyphosate as possibly carcinogenic to humans (Group C) in 1985. After a
re-evaluation of that mouse study, the US EPA changed its classification
to evidence of non-carcinogenicity in humans (Group E) in 1991."
Glyphosate is about as harmless to humans as it's possible to get. It's
been so widely used for so long that any significant carcinogenic effect
would have shown up clearly long ago.
In vivo tests are completely irrelevant. You force a mouse to swim in a
concentrated solution of the compound for six weeks and when he catches
a nasty cold you say it's carcinogenic.
Your point is what exactly? That Californians are hypochondriacs.
So does unleaded petrol with near certainty by containing 1-5% benzene.
The study that declared glyphosate carcinogenic was very flawed. I am no
fan of Monsanto but in this instance the active ingredient glyphosate is
much less of a toxicity worry than the surfactants used in the
commercial weedkiller formulations like RoundUp (I prefer other generic
glyphosate products to avoid putting any money into Monsanto's coffers).
On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 9:10:33 AM UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Search for "Rosate 360" on ebay ...
I used it to kill the rest of my lawn before returfing.
I thought it wasn't working (I used the weaker recommended dilution), but after 2 weeks it all went brown.
I'll order a gallon, once back home to accept delivery. I ran out of
weed killer a few weeks ago and I have been unhurredly looking at
buying some more, with out paying £14 for the dilute ready to spray
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 01:37:10 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson
A bit weaker is often more effective, as it allows the glyphosate to
spread further through the plant before finally killing it, thereby
ensuring a more complete kill eventually. Some people expect the plant
to die before their eyes, and are disappointed when it doesn't.
I am one of them. I remember dousing the garden with sodium chlorate
in the late 80s and the place looked as though it had been napalmed
two hours later.
When Brexit comes can we have sodium chlorate back? For alternative
uses it seems that other, better products can be obtained.
Check the ingredients on generic glyphosate versions in the sheds or the
functional equivalents by former ICI now Syngenta. You want to buy the
most percentage of the active ingredient for the least price.
Beware also that "Roundup" now seems to include formulations that are
not just glyphosate based. Bit of a mess really.
Obviously do not buy the vastly overpriced convenience prediluted stuff.
Not sure why it's of relevance to uk.d-i-y but thanks for posting it.
The Proposition 65 list
is full of strange stuff. It includes things like "Diesel engine
exhaust", which has been listed as a carcinogen since October 1990! But
as far as I am aware, diesel is still being used in the USA. And also
listed, since October 1994, is "Caffeic acid". Well, if it's a
carcinogen, we might all be in trouble, particularly vegetarians, as it
is a precursor of lignin and found in many plants! (eg see
The European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) said today (15 March) that much-discussed
glyphosate weed killer should not be classified as a carcinogen
Well lots of things can cause cancer if consumed in large quantities, so one
starts playing around wityh figures
Somebody once told me that the radiation from rocks and space are probably
why we had to evolve to reproduce the way we do to mitigate damage to the
dna due to it. What next everyone lives and works inside a lead box?
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