OT: Any Muscians on the Panel?

[Cursitor Doom]

Something doesn't sound right about this song at approx. 1m29s there appears to be some sort of issue with the time signature. It's like it goes from 4/4 to 3/4 or something of that sort then back again, but I'm no musician so can't say for sure. Opinions sought from those with a better ear than I!

You may have to listen to the whole 2.5 minutes of the song to be certain. --

"Andrey Semyonovitch really was rather stupid; he attached himself to the progressive cause and 'our younger generation' from enthusiasm. He was one of the numerous and varied legion of dullards, of half-animate abortions, conceited, half-educated coxcombs who attach themselves to the idea most in fashion, only to vulgarise it and who caricature every cause they serve, however sincerely."

- Fyodor Dostoevsky

[Andy Burns]

I'm no musician, but there's nothing jarring around that time to my ears, just a couple of drum breaks around the instrumental section.

[nothanks]

I've been known to make semi-musical noises on a range of instruments - this seems like fairly strict 2/2 or 4/4 to me. Having said that, lots of pieces of music change time (and key) signatures and that doesn't make them "wrong".

[Dave W]

I can't find anything wrong with it. Maybe your communication channel is slow and at the place you say, it decided to drop the delayed feed and miss a bit out to catch up again.

[Brian Gaff (Sofa]

I can hear nothing wrong with it here at all. If you want to hear what happens if somebody tries to sing unaccompanied without a click track or a good time signature sense, Look out Sandy Shows version of Paul McCartney's Junk. I think they were far more interested in the comedy value of the end than noting the variable time signature!

Brian

[Cursitor Doom]

Thanks, Brain. I always defer to your expert opinion on any matter non-visually related. :-) --

"Andrey Semyonovitch really was rather stupid; he attached himself to the progressive cause and 'our younger generation' from enthusiasm. He was one of the numerous and varied legion of dullards, of half-animate abortions, conceited, half-educated coxcombs who attach themselves to the idea most in fashion, only to vulgarise it and who caricature every cause they serve, however sincerely."

- Fyodor Dostoevsky

[JNugent]

The rhythm of the song flows at a constant underlying 4/4, but the lead guitarist finishes a phrase on a totally-unexpected beat.

As someone else has said, there are lots of songs with odd bars of time signature other than the main one for the song. A good example was the Bobbie Gentry version of "I'll Never Fall In Love Again", which was in

4/4 but had one bar of 5/4 under the last line of the chorus (as per the title).

[Vir Campestris]

If you want odd time listen to "Golden Brown".

The Gene Vincent sounds fine to me.

Andy

[Scion]

Or "Take Five".

[JNugent]

There's a fair bit of 5/4 in that.

"Take Five" is in 5/4 all the way through.

"Three To Get Ready" (same album) has an intro in 3/4 but the main theme alternates two bars of 3/4 and two of 4/4.

Perhaps we'd better not get into "Blue Rondo á la Turk"!

[Vir Campestris]

I take it you haven't heard about the story of the album?

Take five is only the best known track from

"it is based upon the use of time signatures that were unusual for jazz"

Andy

[Bob Eager]

Or the "Mission Implausible" theme.

[Scion]

No, I hadn't heard the story of the album. Thanks for the link - an interesting read.

Now listening to Time Out on Spotify.

[JNugent]

That's another in 5/4, ISTR (or at least, the original version by Lalo Schifrin is).

"Living In The past" by Jethro Tull was also a 5/4 piece. You never heard local rock bands play it, and not only because they didn't usually have a flute in the line-up.

[JNugent]

There's another on the same theme: "Time Further Out".

Try "Unsquare Dance" from that one. It's in 7/4 and you will probably find it familiar. It's frequently used as background music in TV documentaries (and a few times on adverts, if I recall correctly).