OT: any idea what "travel to essential work" means?

Sadiq Khan has defined it as "travelling to work only if you work in a critical industry like the NHS", but is "essential work" defined anywhere else?
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This is what Boris has been doing wrong for weeks; giving unclear instructions. Everyone will say that it’s essential that they go to work, whether they’re a nurse, bricklayer, or pizza delivery boy. A few days of continuing chaos will prevail before he forced to make another proclamation. Oh, and Brexit will be delayed by May.
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I don’t have a care in the world, mate. Bills well covered, and I’ll be Plague Immune in a few days to boot. No vaccine for 18 months they say, though, so you’re nailing your front door shut till September 2021 then, Jimmy Livers?
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In other news, May is no longer PM and can't delay Brexit even if she wanted to.
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It is only unclear to thickos like you.
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On 23/03/2020 21:33, snipped-for-privacy@aolbin.com wrote:

According to EDF Energy today (that's the power station bit) they are still waiting for government clarity on who counts as essential and can therefore send children to school.
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On 23/03/2020 21:33, snipped-for-privacy@aolbin.com wrote:

I have seen nothing about "essential work". Only the Mayor's statement which echoes the PM's "travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home".
I've yet to see any legislation (draft or otherwise) of the powers for police to enforce that. But I suspect it won't have a definition of "necessary" in the sense of an exhaustive list or a formula. There are too many variables. I expect much will be left to the ordinary meaning in the context of the purpose. So e.g. cleaners travelling to clean hospitals, milk bottling plants and buses would be "necessary" but cleaners travelling to clean private homes probably not. (The "probably" is there 'cos there's bound to be exceptions to that: e.g. the homeowner is a disabled asthma sufferer allergic to dust.)
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Or there needs to be 'deep cleaning' of places and homes where an infected person has been found to have visited etc.
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On Tuesday, 24 March 2020 03:45:37 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:

and cart away the dead, they found some dead in care homes it spain that had been abandoned.
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According to tonight's announcement its is permissible to got o work if it is essential and you can't work from home.
Some reporters (wrongly imo) interpreted that as meaning if your work was "essential", whereas I take it to mean if you cannot work from home you can go to work as it is then essential to doing your job.
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That was my impression. Why do we pay for a Civil Service if there is no office boy who can predict this ambiguity and nail it in the announcement? This has been the problem all along - for instance there was nothing in the previous instructions to stop people all migrating 300 miles for a mass assault on Snowdon. The draughtsmen may have thought it obvious but they did not *make it clear*.
Bunch of amateurs - have they never thought about how to write an unambiguous office memo?
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Because it's a deliberate political fudge.
If people tried to interpret it too strictly then everything would grind to a halt. . Whereas if people interpret it to loosely, then not so much will grind to a halt and the politicIans can then blame people for getting infected.
While actually enforcing it is made even more impossible if a sufficient number of tbe people who would be enforcing it are self isolating as advised by the government.
That's how democrarcy works. In a democracy people can blame the politicians they elected for not solving probems to which there are no really satisfactoiry solutions. Only compromises and fudges, offered by the more convincing liars which may or may not fool sufficient of the people for enough of the time.
Basically the more a country is in decline - or in the shit economically the more this becomes apparent.
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I generally am not averse to likely conspiracy theories; but I really find it hard to believe the government has decided to halt all "non-essential" industrial and commercial activity without saying so, or indeed defining "non-essential"; and doubly incredible that it intends to do it by democratic pedal vote of individual employees (and perhaps patrolling police officers) as to whether they 'feel' that their employer is doing essential work.
The only sane interpretation of the instruction is that people should carry on working if fit to do so and their employer is offering work; and that they should go to their workplace if home work is not practicable after negotiation with their employer. The word "essential" is just an egregious piece of mis-drafting.
You could be right, but I prefer the incompetence rather than conspiracy interpretation.
PS do you think Dominic Cummings is arrogant enough to have drafted this himself, despite all the obvious pitfalls of not thoroughly checking public announcements?
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On 24/03/2020 01:36, Roger Hayter wrote:

Where please was the word "essential" used by the PM in his TV address?
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On 24/03/2020 08:17, Robin wrote:

The PM's actual words were: "travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home". The https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus website has "Only go outside for food, health reasons or essential work".
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On Tuesday, 24 March 2020 08:57:17 UTC, snipped-for-privacy@aolbin.com wrote:

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The actual 6-page document has this wonderful sentence:
"People must not consumer food or drinks on site at restaurants, cafes or p ubs whilst waiting for takeaway food, "
Yes, ungrammatical and ends, oddly, with a comma. As if something else was meant to be there.
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05:30:59 on Tue, 24 Mar 2020, polygonum_on_google

I was thinking "what a strange thing to do", but then I remembered an Indian restaurant where I did a walk-in takeaway order (not phoned in advance) that tried to sell me pint of lager while I waited in reception. It must be the "hanging around socialising with the barman/waiter" that they want to stop.
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On 24/03/2020 12:30, polygonum_on_google wrote:

A surplus "r" and a comma instead of a stop are very much the kind of slip I was known to make after 7 day weeks with 4 hours sleep a night. You may be further disappointed to know that the civil service neither hangs nor flogs around departments for such offences.
I'd be interested to know of anyone who fails to grasp the meaning of the text with the errors but does without them.
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On Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:02:18 UTC, Robin wrote:

My main question was whether something else had been removed.
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On 24/03/2020 12:30, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Perhaps it was intentional. I would never have seen that "People must not consume food or drinks on site..." had you not pointed it out.
I have used such tactics with signs. It makes people stop and thnik, hopefully so they read the message more than once.
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