OT: Another challenge

Right. Think you'd remember if you were bullied into taking industrial action.

I'd say it was rare. Unless industrial relations were so appalling management couldn't talk to its workforce.

If the factory managed with fewer people on better wages, no bad thing I'd say. After all, productivity in this country is appalling.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)
Loading thread data ...

Could you please give some examples of these laws? And how do you know any were against the wishes of the majority?

But then the UK makes laws too that are probably against the wishes of the majority. Like those which protect the interests of a minority?

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

A lie repeated often enough will become true in the minds of most people Just look at 'climate change'.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

No. You see huge, its like te difference between being rich and having yout throat cut at the age of 35, or living on to 90, more modestly true, but in an atmosphere of peace and tranqullity with the throat cutters consigned to going back whence they canme, as one example.

Money isn't everything. Ecxpet to EU officials.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Good luck taking that one to court. You'd need to define democracy. And to Brexiteers, that seems to mean any law or reg etc they don't happen to agree with. Exactly the same as happens with some and UK laws.

Much easier to establish a financial loss. And it's so obvious the country will suffer from a 'hard' Brexit, that even some politicians in favour of leaving are finally realising this.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

You have no right to impose that sacrifice on me. I regard your attitude as unacceptable.

Reply to
Huge

Perhaps (as someone who I believe worked in the banking sector) you should consider whether everyone was overjoyed at the sacrifices made to prop up your job?

Reply to
Andy Burns

There have been no sacrifices. The Government will, at worst, break even on the banking "rescue".

Reply to
Huge

The only union I've been in was NUS.

I don't recall being offered an opt-out, but presumably there would have been one, but it would have been awkward as the union card *was* the only ID we were issued and it was needed for library access and to sit the final exams, and of course to get into the bar when there were events on!

Reply to
Andy Burns

Only by virtue of 'negative interest rates'

which savers have paid for mightily..

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

I dont remember beiung a member of it.

I have never been a manber of any union that I am aware of.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

A totally unnecessary body.

And neither was I. Mind you, that was the era of the closed shop.

Reply to
Tim Streater

Which laws has the EU forced upon us that the majority didn't agree with? How do *you* know how many agree with any particular law?

How about the death sentence, the *UK* government passed a law repealing it but some claim the majority want to keep it. Are you going to leave the UK because of the same reason you want to leave the EU?

Reply to
dennis

Then is the Mother's Union a union too? ;-)

Dunno. Did it protect student employment, etc? Stop you getting sacked if you didn't attend a lecture for no good reason? ;-)

It's certainly not done much to improve the financial lot of students.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

You've almost sussed it, why do peole commit suicide or at leat attempt to commit suicide ?

People still vote according to what they think, there;s never any idication that yuo should vote the way others think you are meant to vote for what y ou believe is right not what someone else believes is right, this is where religion scores.

Didn't happen when politition got their 10% rise last year and I think it w as £1000 this year. Did the staff of BHS lose their jobs because they went on strike for more p ay ?

As opposed to just the one ... the needs of the many or the needs of the on e which is more important ?

Is it better to be a left brainer or a no brainer ?

But surely only 52% is better than only 48% or is 48 larger than 52 in your brain ? if someone asks you which number is largest which would you say ?

Did the PM have a sex change that I didn't notice. Because I thought it was david cameron that annoucnced we'd hold a referend um. on wether or not we stayed in the EU. But "the same MP that herself voted to remain"

How would you when even the EU doesn't know, we didnt know they'd be 27 or so countries in the EU in 1971. I dind't even know I'd own a computer let a lone have one with more memory than NASA had used going to the moon in my p ocket.

Farage never mentioned any figure you made up the 2/3rds you've imagined it .

formatting link

985017

The Ukip leader speaks to the Mirror?s Associate Editor Kevin Magui re and warns that a '52-48 result would be unfinished business'

I wouldn't give people with 'such imaginations' like yours the vote.

Have you heard from the spaghetti monster on the moon recently ?

Like what ?

The Qs was leave or remain no one asked the voter to derive a mathematical equation to prove the existance of God, if they did I missed that Q.

The question was plain that's why most could answer it. Those that thought the Q was too difficult stayed at home or maked two boxe s with ticks or otherwise couldn't manage to put their thoughts down on pa per. Unless you count people that draw penisises in the boxes. Maybe they were remain votes. What do you think someone that drew a penis on the voting form wanted to vo te for ?

For some ... spoilt papers.

Well few can predict the future, but the idea of voting is to change the fu ture not the past, that's the tricky bit.

Well why not tell us what those that spoilt their papers really wanted to v ote for.

232 were rejected for no official mark.

So they were remainers where they must have been pretty stupid remainers if they couldn;t even pick which box to tick or maybe they forgot what they w ere voting for between arriving at the polling station and putting the penc il in their hand.

9,084 were rejected as both answers were voted for

Again the remainers voting to leave and remaining ? Quite a few of thses it seems.

836 were rejected because of a writing or mark by which the voter could be identified

They could be either side claiming that they are god or some other person, surely they should know better.

15,207 were rejected because they were unmarked or void for uncertainty

So remainers can't tick a box but they can predict the future of the UK bot h in and out of the EU.

But what would none of the above actually mean, would it be an in or an out vote ? Try thinking about it what would say 20 remain 20 leave 60 None_of_the_a bove what would that have shown and how should the government reacted. ?

Not everything exists in equal 1/3rds. We don't vote like that, we don't s ay 2/3rds must vote for the next political party or they don't become goven rment.

What party would have won the recent election if 2/3 needed to vote for the winning party.

and it did people PROTESTED by voting (rather than killing people) "Leave" so you want to ignore them unless they get to a MAGIC 2/3rds or 66.6%

What if you see large pot holes in the road which damage your car do you ca rry on driving for another 40 years knowing that driving means you are will ing to put up with the pot holes as are 66% of people otherwise they'd comp lain.

What do you mean by the 'people' ? which 'people' ?

About 72% of the 'people' votes are yuo saying that 66% of them should have all voted the same way in order for the vote to count. ?

Reply to
whisky-dave

In message , whisky-dave writes

They've spent too long reading you two arguing pointlessly?

Reply to
Graeme

Students aren't employed otherwise they'd be in a union of employees of som e sort.

etc? Stop you getting sacked if

well they do go on marches and teh studetn union gets the studetn bar rede cored almost every year and it costs £1000s with new furniture etc.

Here in the labs we haven't had anything for 10 years, although I do have w orkman here as I saw smoke coming up through the risers, so they come to ta pe the risers shut so teh smoke doesn't come into the lab they are taping u p the smoke alarm too, don't know why as I said if the alarm goes off I won 't hear it as it's been faulty since 10th May (Flat battery I think)

There's been 2 or 3 fire evactuations since them.

Reply to
whisky-dave

Your sig says it all, f*ck you.

Reply to
Richard

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

That is contrary to the very basic principle of every trade union in the UK.

Reply to
bert

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

Typical socialist organisation then.

Reply to
bert

HomeOwnersHub website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.