One for the Electricians- 5A sockets

[Tricky Dicky]

It's done over here too although up till recently I had only seen loop in done at the rosettes. Our 1975 bungalow has the loop in at the switches but done using single core cables, the neutral is simply a single core going from rosette to rosette. My daughters new build has the loop in done at the switches but with T+E so a neutral is present.

The only thing I find about the system used at my daughters is the back boxes seem packed with cabling particularly one where she has two switches on one plate and one of the switches is part of a two switching arrangement the back box is absolutely rammed.

Richard

[John Rumm]

I guess you mean a neutral at the switch - we definitely have live and switched live normally!

[John Rumm]

There are a number of common ways of doing lighting circuits[1]. Loop in is common with ceiling roses.

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[spuorgelgoog]

I've got a four-gang switch in the bedroom, 2 x two-way for the bedhead lights, 2 x ceiling lights, loop in and out, and two extra loops where the smoke alarm / 2nd lighting circuit wanders through.

The old cables were all stranded imperial and cut really short too, so very difficult to dress neatly into terminal strip as a replacement for the Scruits(tm) what had been holding the neutrals together since 1968.

Owain

[Brian Reay]

As per my earlier post, I intended to type Live and Neutral but made an error- a silly omission.

[Brian Reay]

As I mentioned, we've a couple of rooms like that but this is the only house I've seen it in of any we've owned. Even then, those have wall lights.

As you say, the back boxes are a bit 'busy'.

I'm not minded to go cutting into walls to replace the cables to switches so, if we want 'smart' lights in rooms with 'UK' style switch wiring, it will be using 'smart' bulbs. I've found the Ikea Tradri bulbs work fine with Alexa - including dimming- no need to buy any Ikea control box. They aren't, as far as my research shows, Hive compatible, but Alexa is, so that can control everything. They (Ikea) just need to produce them in B22 and a mini 4/5W golf-ball version for our wall lights.

[Steve Walker]

No neutral in, but you should see the back of the 4-gang switches used for 2-way switching at either end of our living room!

SteveW

[Steve Walker]

Quite commonly used for plug-in lighting, switched from a single wall switch (for table lamps, standard lamps, stand-alone uplighters ... even Christmas lights), on self-build TV programmes.

SteveW

[Steve Walker]

Yes. Our conservatory has a three-gang switch. One gang is used for a pair of ceiling lights and the second for a pair of wall lights (we have a solid bit of ceiling and solid walls before the main conservatory roof), with the third switching four lighting sockets. One socket is used for a table lamp, but come December, the other three are used for the Christmas tree lights and other Christmas lighting.

SteveW

[John Rumm]

With a bit of careful organisation, you can get quite a bit into a switch backbox. I got at least 5 cables into this:

It has power in, feeds out to a couple of lighting sockets, another to a pendant light, a feed in from an adjacent thermostat, and output to a wall heater. All with a triple switch on the front (one currently spare).