Now i'm no plumber...

Seems reasonable enough as most of it's out of sight, but I'm not a plumber either, but are you missing a trap in that set-up[1]? If you are, be prepared for a few 'pongs' attacking your nose when leaning over the bowl!

Cash

Not a fan of plastic push fit for the water either as I have to replace 2 leaking 22mm stop ends tomorrow

And I would fit tails with built in isolators as well

Regards

IAWTP, wholeheartedly. Mugs game. (but I'd still prefer to be 16 again).

dosen?t have a trap?

Just put a HepvO in the straight bit.

Yebbut it's taking up a fair portion of the under sink cupboard!

Nope there's no trap.

I would have thought that the two bowls would be connected together by means of the connector that comes off to the side of the larger bowl.

Then a trap under the larger bowl with a pipe running out of the drain pipe that already exists.

The frankly bizarre trapless set up in the pic required a new hole knocking in the back wall of my kitchen.

But what do I know. Apparently I 'have all the gear but no idea'.

You really need a trap on that bottom pipe because if the pipe runs directly or indirectly into the foul sewer, you really will get some rather aweful smells coming back into the kitchen without one - or if the the pipe runs directly outside into a gulley, then it will be rather draughty under certain wind conditions, or the odd spider or 'bug' will use it as convenient entry into the kitchen.

If you have a local plumbers or builders merchant close by, pop down there and explain the situation with the lack of room and the layout and I'm certain they will help - or the plumbers that post here will.

Cash

We used to have one of those. We often got smells from the drain so replaced it with a conventional trap -- problem solved.

Reckon its about time you gave this bloke his cards and cut your losses;!..

Bodger..

Done.

I would also do a +1 to TMC's comment about the lack of isolators on the tap feeds. My experience with kitchen taps is that they a considerably less finite life than any others - not only from the wear out point of view, but HID fancying an upgrade to the latest in spray tap, etc.

Rob.

Well the sink is going to have to come out so I can remove the back panel of that cupboard as I am beyond sure that there will be a load of loose bricks where he has knocked through. So I will fit a couple of isolators as well as tidying up that waste.

In message , Mark writes

Our "top of the range" Franke 1.5 sink came with a waste kit as shown here

And the worst thing now you have cut your losses and settled on the right course, is that putting a trap in could have brought the pipework back to the level of the original hole.

Indeed, I touched on that the other day,

"...a trap under the larger bowl with a pipe running out of the drain pipe that already exists. "

My missus had chosen not to mention at the time that the other day she was finding bits of ceramic sink all over the (leather) sofa. He had apparently chosen that as the ideal place to rest it while he chipped out the tap hole. I've never known anything like it, i'm still waiting for Jeremy Beadle to pop out from around the corner.

Anyway, it's all over now.

Is that is you sent him packing or he completed the job?

I don't think he was ever likely to finish the job.

He had fitted the wall units based on a theoretical 500mm chimney extractor. They don't exist.

As he was coming up with ideas to resolve the situation I decided enough was enough. Especially when the phrase 'chipping away' was used with regards to the walls.

Can I have his number please?

I have a customer that I do not like that wants a new kitchen:-)