Thanks again for your advice last week which was a breeze to follow
and the light was up in very short time (by my standards)
I am fitting a new one this weekend...this one provides a 6 terminal block
The new fitting is a 6 halogen bulbs on a flexible bar affair.
The instructions supplied have a diagram..
New Fitting Ceiling side
Neutral (blue) 1 2 Neutral
Earth 3 4 Earth
Live (brown) 5 6 Switched Live (red/brown)
There is no mention of the unswitched loop.
I had the thought of just removing the cover from the celing rose and
shortening the existing cable hanging from rose but
there probably isn't an earth.
There is also something weird in the new fitting.
The 2 clusters of 6 cables are mounted together but have another cable
the opposite direction from where both clusters of 6 are merged. These
have bare ends as though it has come loose from a seventh bulb on the bar or
something but there is no obvious place they should be connected to.
I hope this is understandable.
Thanks for any advice.
I suppose i can use (4x2) length of my own block then no problem there I
I can use the same set up some of you gents advised me on last week.
But i am still left with the weird trailing wires.
Sorry for the delay in putting up a picture
After a while the penny dropped for me and I twigged the loose wires are the
ones to go in the connector block.
I initially assumed the plastic covered ends were to go in the connector
Ah, sounds like you have sussed it, but just in case:
The plastic widgets are those horrid American style "wire nuts" -
basically a way of joining wires just a little less crudely than
twisting them together. There is presumably one wire running to each
bulb holder on the fitting, and these are being used to common them
together and present a single wire for you to connect to the house wiring.
The wording of the instructions for the fitting is assuming a non uk
style of wiring for the house as well (where the wires present will only
be neutral, switched live and earth) by the sounds of it.
Assuming you have a traditional "loop in" system, you will see two or
three cables present at the lighting position. One bringing power in
(from the previous light in the circuit), one taking it out to the next
(assuming this is not the last one), and one to the switch.
You need 4 terminals to make this work. One to common the neutral in,
out, and the neutral on the fitting. Another for all the earths, another
to common the live in, live out to the next lamp, and one of the wires
to the switch, and finally one to connect the other wire returning from
the switch to the live on the fitting. Note that both wires to and from
the switch are live, and hence should be marked as such with sleeving or
insulating tape of the correct colour.
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