How does it compare with tax and insurance on a van versus a car?
Also vans are banned from some places like council recycling sites without extra paperwork / etc.
No experience, but an MPV like a Renault Espace is roughly van shaped while counting as a car.
Also, if you're fishing at the elderly end of the pool (2000-2004), the Toyota Yaris Verso looked interesting as a small MPV with a big boot and enormous rear window. The newer Toyota Versos are a bit more run of the mill.
Theo
We've had Citroens since a long time ago, we started with BXs in the
1980s, then XMs, then C5s and now a C6 as well. The one thing that never fails (famous last words) is the suspension. On the older (BX and XM) Citroens they'd need recharging occasionally but that's a simple and cheap process. Neither of our C5s nor the C6 has had any sort of suspension failure, apart from bush wear like any other car.Our C5 and C6 have both done over 150k miles now.
I mamaged over 100,000 miles on mine and never had problems with them. The tailgate dampers went, though.
I think it's a set tax of £265/270 per year independent on size of van.
Depends on the council. Most require permits, others make it very difficult.
Agreed, as are cars like Galaxy
Best put some windows in a van and call it a campervan.
Why not buy a used van?
It happens that The Natural Philosopher formulated :
Fully folding rear seats - mine do not. It's a saloon, where the the under window space is occupied with a HK optional fit woofer speaker, then the rear seat folds, but no fully down flat - so it makes it difficult to get much in there between HK and the seat back. On the plus side, it does have a useful sometimes ski hatch, but I don't ski :-)
The Citroen Berlingo/Peugeot Partner is exactly van shaped while counting as a car. You can take out the back seats, and fold down the front passenger seat, to give you loads of space. You've also got things like the Ford Tourneo, an even bigger van-shaped car - though they tend not to be cheap unless they're high-mileage ex- taxis.
Mike
Hatch backs can often take large objects. I once used a VW Golf to collect a hot water tank.
Recently I wanted to buy some 4.8m long timber. I tied a ladder to my roof bars and then put the timber on top and tied it down.
Sounds like you need a 2CV! Brian
Buy one like this (2004-2007, this one seems expensive but is low mileage):
Nice to drive, people assume "It's an MPV" so going to the dump is OK, in reality it's a light commercial vehicle, (van) insurance for me was £178 this year, tax is £275, ow!
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