Lights Saga - Appendix 1

Pushing choc blocks up into the ceiling is frowned upon as it does not provide complete insulation ie. Connections that can be touched. Something like this can be used the connector does have a loop in facility if that is what is in the rosette. The beauty of this is the wiring can be done without having a the light fitting dangling at the same time. Fit one half to the wiring in the ceiling connect the other half to the light fitting then lift the fitting to ceiling plug the two together push into the void and secure the fitting.

Richard

I would probably do away with the rose, and re-make the connections using wagos in a wagobox. (chockbox and terminals would be also be ok) Stuff that up into the ceiling void and fix the chandelier to the ceiling with appropriate bit of wood tucked behind the plasterboard if required to get a good fixing.

The click connectors can also make a nice solution for lamps - they include their own enclosure. One half can accommodate all the "loop in" cables, and the other connects to the light fixture. It then plugs into the other bit. Handy with big heavy light fixtures where you don't want to deal with wiring stuff up at the same time as supporting a heavy fixture:

Is there room in the gap for a box of some sort, so the chock block is at least covered? Many of these seem to have been made for screwing to a kind of patress of some kind which is itself mounted on a joist or some other substantial item, as they do tend to be heavy. I'd not feel safe if it was screwed at an angle as you describe. I remember once having a glass globe cover for a lampholder in my bathroom. It was held up with a circular frame with three thumb screws that stopped the lip of the glass bowl coming out. One day there was a crash, and a lot of broken glass on the bathroom floor. The plastic surround that held the captive nut and one of the thumbscrews had cracked and the globe dropped out. I now have another one but this fitting has a more substantial fitting, ie not cheap plastic that goes brittle.

Fixing of lights does seem to be an area of less than perfect design standards. Brian