How do I change time on my vans clock?

[Rod Speed]

Unlikely that there are any local imams and moslems are as rabidly divided sect wise as xtians.

[alan_m]

My sub £10 bedside clock radio drifts by about 10 seconds a day so when the clocks go back by an hour I seldom have to adjust it :)

[Rob Morley]

I do indeed - silly me.

[Rob Morley]

I wonder what the stats were 1968-71 when the UK retained BST all year. Schoolkids were issued with reflective armbands for walking to school.

[SteveW]

ISTR reading that accidents fell - as most kids on the way to school just go there, while they are far more likely to deviate from the direct route, play around with friends, etc. on the way home, so it is safest that they come home in the light.

[charles]

In real time in 1959, I was an Xmas postie in Edinburgh. We had to use (issued) torches until about 9am to see house numbers. With British Wilson Time it wouuld have been 10am

[The Natural Philosopher]

I certainly was not.

[Sn!pe]

Many schoolkids in my area were.

[SteveW]

According to RoSPA, going to school in the dark and coming home in the light causes fewer accidents than the other way around - possibly because the kids go straight to school, but socialise, play and mess around on the way home. Possibly also that drivers are more alert after a night's sleep than after a day at work.

They were still issuing those armbands later in the '70s, long after the experiment was over.

[Bob Henson]

It is one of those things that defies understanding. There are so many benefits (the one you mention may possibly be the most important) in staying on double summer time. My personal main reason is that it lengthens the useful day by not wasting daylight whilst we all sleep. The only possible argument against is the Scots' complaints that it adversely affects them - which is not a valid argument as, if their maths isn't up to coping with it, all the have to do is move their working day by one clock hour or, as they are so keen on it, go independent and have their own different time zone.

[The Natural Philosopher]

I remember turning up at a German factory at 09:00, to find that the staff were on their morning break, having started at I think 06:30.

And they were home in time to pick up the kids from school at 15:30.

This appeared to be the norm

[charles]

When, as a student, I was a Christmas postie in Edinburgh, it didn't get properly light until 9am. That would be 10am if we stayed on BST all year and 11am if we went to double summer time.

[Max Demian]

No benefits. If you don't like the hours you work or go to school just change the hours. Don't monkey about with the clocks; that's a way to deceive people into thinking that it's lighter. Go back to GMT the year round.

You mean so we can play tennis at 9pm in the summer? Who does that? Most people are watching telly or down the pub. Or both. Do people watch TV in pubs any more?

The argument against it is that the clock is designed so that noon is roughly 12pm.

The Japanese had 12 hours (or was it 6) daylight and a similar number of hours of night. Sort of makes sense, but complicates clock design.

(There used to be a clock that showed Japanese time in the Science Museum in London. I don't know whether it was Japanese or Western made. The Japanese continued to make Western clocks &c. during the period that they shunned the west.)

[SteveW]

Most people don't have a choice. The school opens at 08:50, the university lecture is at 09:00, the factory shift starts at 08:30 and that's when they have to be there. Change the clock and all these people can have more daylight hours at a time that they can use them - i.e. in the evenings.

Lots of people do things in the evenings, that they need light for.

But noon is when the sun is highest and is close to the middle of most people's working day. It is nowhere near the middle of most people's ACTUAL day.

[Rod Speed]

Bullshit.

Plenty can't do that.

Its a way to give those who can't change the hours more daylight time.

No thanks.

Do anything you choose to at that time in summer.

Plenty do use the extra daylight time in summer for what interests them.

And plenty do barbys or even get real radical and walk the dog etc.

And then the world moved on.

[me9]

And then have to get up and go to work in the dark. Apart from those in teh far south east. Iceland (far north and west of us) stays on GMT.

[me9]

It was awful, north of the Tees-Exe line during that horrible experiment of British standard time.

[SteveW]

It doesn't bother me at all going to work in the dark. Even if it was light, what am I going to do with that time? It is much better to have the light at the end of the working day, when I can use it.