Here we go then ! Finally opening on Monday ....

Because the users of facebook etc expect to be able to comment etc. It's the web2 way - look at how many sites now have "comment on this" or "post to twitter" etc etc on their articles now.

Fair enough. If you're the sort of person who avoids flash entirely then I'm fairly certain you aren't facebook or twitter core userbase.

Darren

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D.M.Chapman
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ALT tags are not intended as popups for mouseovers (TITLE tags are intended for that), they are only intended to be displayed when images are disabled, unavailable e.g. for the blind. It was Internet Exploder that decided to display ALT tags as popups.

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Andy Burns

ALT text shouldn't pop up on mouse over, use a browser that obeys the rules. ALT text is ALTernative text to the image, displayed when the image can't be for a number of reasons. It should describe the image:

"Sunset over Sennan Cove. The sun is half set on the left 1/3 of the image, a bright line of orange reflected light runs forward along the calm seas surface to the edge of a rocky area. The foreground contains a rock pool with the setting sun reflected in it. A silhouetted headland is low on the horizon on the right. The sky is clear and shades from orange to deep blue via red away from the sun.

TITLE text is that which should pop up on mouse over:

"Sunset over Sennan Cove."

I think they can, but it's not easy to spot the "suitable for vegetarians" items. A few little green v symbols required. If there is anything with nuts in it might be worth indicating those as well, little red n?

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Dave Liquorice

Well you need something on the site. When you do get ones with people in remember what some one else said about "busy but not too busy".

Might be worth having a picture of each burger, though one burger look much like another. Perhaps just a couple showing a complete typical place setting?

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Dave Liquorice

That?s a requirement for valid xhtml. You?re doing very well in that

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Another suggestion: make it clear that the menu is present on the site (at the moment the link to the pdf is the first menu thing I see on the page, and using pdfs can be a pain). Also ?Click here? (to download our menu) is a poor thing to link from: search engines use the link text to help rank the target page, so something like: ?click to download our menu? would be better.

BT told a friend that it would cost £5k to do ADSL to her house. After several attempts to install it that resulted in her phone being cut off completely for days.

BT are going to lose a fair bit of custom unless they get some sense.

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Jon Fairbairn

I forgot to add: but the alt text can be empty (alt=""), and it should be empty if the image plays no part in the text, because screen readers (for blind/partially sighted people) will read them out. In your case, the buttons on the left should have alt text so that it will work even if someone has images turned off.

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Jon Fairbairn

Balls, forgot to add in the bit I really wanted to say about this. If using real punters you really need to get their (written and signed) permission to use the images. I haven't looked but I expect you can find suitable example release forms on the 'net that could be tweaked.

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Dave Liquorice

One method of getting a nice photoshoot would be to "hire" some punters with free food on condition that they accept being in the photo, and possible, sit where you ask them to get a nice layout of people.

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Tim Watts

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I partially disagree - for the first photo at least, I usually put something like "photo of ".

If only afew photos, I tag them all with such descriptions. The blind person might want to know they are missing something of interest and ask a sighted person to describe the pictures...

But I agree with alt="" for irrelevant fluff or layout-space-filling images (not that anyone whould be pulling that diasterous old hack these days).

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Tim Watts

Arfa- Is that weblink correct? I have not trawled right through the thread due to its length but after several attempts I can't connect/ My DNS server is not rejecting the URL but the browser just hangs.

Bob

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Bob Minchin

In which case you should by rights eschew all web sites without exception!

I suspect you may be missing the point. From an accessibility point of view all images should[1] have ALT text description provided that describes the image. That way people using screen readers etc or other accessibility aids (or even those rare souls browsing with text only browsers or images turned off) will still get the gist of what the image was "saying".

This has nothing to with "rollovers" (i.e. images that change when moused over) or any other "flash" (in both senses) web design.

[1] for a commercial enterprise, there is even applicable legislation now that applies.
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John Rumm

On 30/06/11 01:43, Arfa Daily wrote: There are PDQ machines that have a

Yes, I was buying wine at a cantina in very rural Italy yesterday, where they used a card machine on a mobile network.

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djc

Good idea, I'd still get 'em to sign a release form though.

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Dave Liquorice

Thing is, you'd only get piccies of 'em standing in a queue, as it's a take-out burger joint ... :-)

Update on progress. It's going very well. The nightly take is going up faster than had been predicted or expected in the first couple of weeks. We are now getting repeat customers, which is always a good sign, as well as recommendations, and curious walk-ins, who finish up buying at least a milkshake if not food as well. Half-pounders are a lot more popular than expected, and trust me, it's a mission to get through them. And the half pound double chicken burger with bacon, is one of the most popular things on the menu. Also, the home made coleslaw (our old recipe from the cafes, resurrected) is proving to be really popular. Surprisingly, also, many of the milkshakes that are being bought, are 'large', and are also being bought as part of a meal. We were expecting those to be more of a 'separate entity', or bought for the kids, as was the model when we sold them in the cafes. Still, bit of a learning curve involved, and we're well pleased with the response from the locals, so far.

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

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Went straight in when I just clicked it, Bob. Just using standard MS Internet Exploder here.

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

Oh. But still, ouple of people at the counter, and a photogenic couple walking out clutching a couple of burgers?

Well done.

Keep an eye on the quality and service though...

I went down to Battle 3 miles away the other week for some fish'n'chips and 'babs. I'm normally too lazy to bother and although we have a local chippy in the village my last experience was that it was dreadful.

The Battle one was clean and shiney, I saw the bloke actually wash his hands between handling the fish (battered and fried to order) and the 'babs. The setting, though classic chip shop, was mellowed by a fine slection of arty pictures hung around.

'babs were decent but the fish and chips were fried to perfection; light, golden, crispy, not tasting of 1/2 gallon oil and the fish flesh was just right and white and not soaked in oil.

Result: every week has a fish'n'babs night... Good impressions last :)

Cheers,

Tim

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Tim Watts

Would Unit No. 1 be willing to share broadband with you - then you could have an internet phone. (and an internet card machine too)

Might be worth mentioning that on the site as well.

Then people can get a burger after doing their shopping.

Owain

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Owain

Photographs are well established as aids to selling food. Ideally, they should be taken by a professional who specialises in food photography: not cheap but a one off cost. A quick trip to one of the chains will give a good idea of how to photograph burgers. They can be made to look different by having the contents spilling out the edge, which also makes them look to be generously filled.

However, a little bit of marketing work on the text would also be good. For example, instead of:

Salad Burger with tomato, onion, lettuce and cucumber.

I would go for something along the lines of:

Salad Burger: our pure Aberdeen Angus beef burger, chargrilled just for you and served in an individually toasted sesame seed bun, with slices of succulent tomato, crunchy onion slices, crisp fresh lettuce and the refreshing taste of cucumber slices, served with a portion of our golden brown double fried chips.

It creates a much more vivid image of the product in the mind of the customer.

Colin Bignell

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Nightjar

There's a saying in the catering trade which goes something like you're only as good as your last meal. Bad memories last longest.

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Fredxx

That's me, actually. I always browse with images off - it's amazing how much faster things are. Hence the links to other pages were invisible to me

Indeed. And a statement on whether the premises are disabled- accessible and that guide dogs are welcome would do no harm.

Owain

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Owain

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