Gridwatch and power generation today

Up thread we were told that it isn't a true socialist country.

But that my be like the No True Scotsman thing...

Incidentally one of my colleagues is a raving lefty - and Norwegian. What's he doing here then?

Andy

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Vir Campestris
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No country is in that sense, even the ones like Venezuela.

They have always had lots who leave the country for various reasons. The climate alone has real downsides and there have always been more job opportunities outside such a small country.

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BillD

You should get him to read this group. He'd get a good laugh at all the raving righties on here.

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Dave Plowman (News)

But surely that is what socialism is supposed to fix?

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The Natural Philosopher

As in the Berlin wall, for example!

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Chris Hogg

No it isn?t.

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BillD

So job creation and climate change are nothing that socialism is involved with OK?

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The Natural Philosopher

Clearly quite a bit of job creation was involved with the government doing their oil and gas and most of their power generation. Same with the NHS in the UK and with government schools in both countries.

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BillD

Venezuela.

Switzerland

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harry

You've been taken in yet again, Turnip. Only the likes of Trump would claim to be able to fix the short winter days.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Having no more than 2 kids per female (worldwide), or no more than 1 where the population is already unsustainable, is the only way to reduce CO2 output and demand on oil reserves.

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Andrew

They do have some

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but even an outfit with green in their name isn't trying to claim it.

Wouldn't be in a Fjord of course since by definition they are at sea level.

"noun a long, narrow, deep inlet of the sea between high cliffs, as in Norway, typically formed by submergence of a glaciated valley"

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newshound

It's an interesting consequence of privatisation that, where once planned nuclear outages were always in the summer, they are now as often as not in the winter. Presumably a consequence of clever players optimising the various markets. I won't use the loaded word "gaming".

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newshound

CCGT now near the stops, and coal ramping up to supply more than wind.

Looking at the figures, can we meet demand at night in the winter without coal?

Must stop looking at the meters!

Cheers

Dave R

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David
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They're firing up the OCGT!

They're firing up the OCGT!!!

{Goes for a lie down in a darkened room}

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David

Prolly just a little test burn to make sure a couple of them are ship-shape ...

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Andy Burns

The link you give only says ?Pumped storage power plants are rarely built,?

Wiki doesn't mention it at all

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Mearns give a table of electricity statistics for Norway in 2013.
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down to the first table) Conventional hydro produced 128,699GWh, whereas in the text immediately below he says that pumped storage generated 786GWh, some

0.6% of that of conventional hydro. In other words, next to nothing. I agree, that's not nothing, quite (but very nearly), but certainly near enough nothing to make GM's comment pie-in-the-sky.

The comments below Mearns' article are also worth reading.

That was in 2013. Since then there have been studies of the potential for pumped storage in Norway* and your link above, with the idea that Norway might act as the 'green battery' for Europe, but AFAIK, nothing has actually happened on the ground, and judging by the tenor of those studies, nothing is likely to happen any time soon.

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Chris Hogg

(not sure if TNP's coloured segments on his meters actually represent maximum capacities; he will comment, no doubt)

A couple of nights ago, and as I type now, even the OCGT are up.

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Chris Hogg

at night poissibly. By day. I suspect not

Please be advised the 'stops' are notional.

Ther may be mpore or less capacity avialable depending on the state of individual stations

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The Natural Philosopher

Yep. Obviously spot prices are high enough..

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The Natural Philosopher

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