Gas regs Q

I *think* if it is a stand alone cooker which can be wheeled out for cleaning, etc, a bayonet is ok. Built in ones - either hob or oven - should have a permanent connection.

I think the issue here is one of access rather than the type of connector (although I'd agree about the fixed connections).

My oven connector is behind a cabinet next to the oven but the rear panel is removable from inside the cabinet to allow access. Dunno if this is legal or not.

Tim

I thought that a hob could be connected with a flexible hose and bayonet fitting if the MI permit and if the hose is able to hang free (as YAPH has pointed out) and stay below 70C. But I could be wrong; and know that the gas fitter we had a quote from last year proposed to use rigid copper despite our wanting a hob with no oven underneath.

Yes, the bayonet (which is what is fitted to the oven) is in the next bay. There's a cutout in the cabinet side to allow it to pass through. The fitters words were "regs say it's not allowed to pass through wood

- it's a fire hazard". He said the pipework needed to be rerouted through the actual wall, to come out directly behind the oven.

He also mentioned something about a metal cap which new rags say should be plastic, so as to melt in the event of a fire. Unfortunately I wasn't actually there to see what he meant.

Are you sure that the right way round? Plastic melting in a fire and allowing uncontrolled escape of gas would be undesirable to say the least. I don't think he is as knowledgable as he thinks he is.

tbh that was my first thought ... however he's the guy sent by the manufacturer, so we need him to be happy to keep the manufacturer happy :-(

In message , Jethro writes

Whatever regulation he is quoting, was it current at the time the original installation was done? If yes yo have a claim against the original fitter, if no then the next question is are the new regulations retrospective?

The bayonet outlet has to be accessible by removing the oven /and/ /nothing/ /else/, ie in the bay behind the oven itself. Picture YAPH's artwork viewed from above:

WALL ________________________________ | bayonet | | + | | |----| | | +-----------+| | | || CUPBOARD| | ||CUPBOARD | | OVEN || | | || ________| |___________||_________

IANA gas plumber, but have just asked one.

JGH

Sounds bollocks to me. I can't think of a specific regulation that would apply to this. If the kitchen units are cut away so that the hose has plenty of free space to hang in and the bayonet can be accessed to connect/disconnect it then I don't see any more fire hazard than having the cooker installed in wooden kitchen units anyway.

Maybe ask the mfrs for clarification of what their installer is calling for?

At worst, you might need to make the hole bigger so there's no imaginable difficulty removing the hose.