Fourteen stairlifts replace lift at Paisley tower block

[Part Timer]

Anyone else see this kludge?

[Jethro]

our library vandal-free[1], I can't see it lasting long. That and the fact that they'd be quite nickable, if not as stairlifts, for the metal alone.

[1]I am not a fan of medieval punishments but I would have to be held back from dealing out some "blowtorch and pliers" justice to scum who vandalise mobility aids.

[Bob Eager]

I think the application of torsion to arms and legs, followed by four quick applications of an iron bar, would provide a useful mobility lesson.

[dom]

on floor 15 do to visit their neighbour on floor 14 - go all the way to the ground, change lifts, and go back up?

[Jules Richardson]

[Ron Lowe]

Sedan chairs and lots of manpower.

Or elephants.

They can go over the Alps, so why not up a tower block.

The council need to think outside the box , as they say.

[Tim Watts]

Something mongolian, involving horses and ropes...

[Steve Walker]

they should have had two lifts capable of stopping at every floor, but electronically arranged to only do every other one - thus allowing one to be switched to cover every floor whenever the other was out of action.

SteveW

[Hugo Nebula]

Actually, multi-storey flats and elderly people are an ideal match. They have accomodation on one level, there's no garden to maintain, and they don't generally have young children that need a space to play in. Refuse disposal is via a chute, so no wheely bins to move. Provided the lifts are maintained, they usually don't have to go down stairs to get out of the building.

[dennis]

They are more secure too, as long as the access system works.

Older people don't turn them into rubbish tips like some other residents used to.

[Huge]

And even if they are, how do they get back up again, you dumb f*ck?

[Steve Firth]

I know several multi-storey blocks of flats that are ideal for old people. Sadly they tend to be in places like Marble Arch and are only for the wealthy who can aford the annual service charges. They manage to provide clean public areas, lifts that are serviced and always serviceable and security at the door. The big difference from council accomodation is that they have 24/7 security.

This would all be achieveable in council owned accomodation and the price of having 24h concierge/warden service would be relatively low considering the number of individual homes in a multi-storey block. With adequate training and perhaps some imagination in terms of providing live-in accomodation the staff could provide social as well as physical security.

Sadly the f'ing morons who run councils see only a cost and not the long term cost saving.

[Weatherlawyer]

What are you blaming councilors for. They have all the headaches and none of the spindoctors and PR people to fend off reality that bank mismanagers and more powerful government politicians have.

If you want to blame someone go to the rich half of a Caribbean island and kill a few recluses. It's your money they bought their seclusion with.

[Bob Eager]

Edward de Bono would be ashamed of you....get the lift to the floor above, and walk down. (disregarding the edge case of a failed lift to the top floor)

[polygonum]

Until there is a power cut... :-)

[John Williamson]

Up two in the lift and walk back down a flight. Derhhhh!

[Bob Eager]

Unless the lift to the top floor is inoperative.

[Steve Walker]

But it's not a saving if when work is required it needs 14 stairlifts put in!

I did wonder whether it was a cost thing, but also wondered whether it was a lift speed/size thing - you can use smaller lifts and run them faster if they are not going to be stopping at as many floors and picking up so many people.

Lifts go wrong - that's a simple fact - so having two lifts, but not having redundancy is ridiculous.

SteveW

[Steve Walker]

Nah. I used to have friends who lived on the 16th floor of a tower block. If you just pressed the intercom 0 button and told security that you were going to flat 163 and their intercom wasn't working, they'd open the outer door for you.

Security were at ground level in this building and they also monitored the next building by camera - one day the scrotes got in and stole the cameras!

SteveW

[Peter Parry]

That's 26 sealed lead acid batteries to nick for a start before bothering with the difficult bits :-).

(Second hand stair lifts have almost zero value as stair lifts).