fog lights

Mar 26, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 83 Replies

If they had stopped with different sized arrows I think the signs would be a lot less confusing, but no, some bright spark decided to emphasise one arrow with colour. Now my brain has to work out whether size or colour is the more important attribute of the arrow denoting priority.

Definitely a poor sign IMO.

Tim

I agree with you. Madness only having one. But in some vehicles, which might have a lamp socket on each side, you can only fit one lamp. Otherwise the lamp failure detection goes bonkers.

It is especially silly that if you are going between LHD/RHD countries, you should get out and change the side that has the lamp fitted.

[priority road signs]

Even this vendor can't get it right!

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Chris

Um, kinda making my point. The vendor HAS got it right.

Tim

No. The vendor has got it wrong. According to the Highway Code, The "give priority" sign is correct - a round, red edged, white background sign. However, the "you have priority sign" is an informational sign and should be a blue rectangle.

Gotcha. My mistake. My quibble is over the confusion caused by the use of colour and size.

Tim

The Cortina came after the regs had changed so new cars had to have amber flashers. I reckon in the late 50s. The Z type MG Magnette changed from trafficators to white and red flashers during its life. Use a combo relay to use the brake lights as flashers. The fronts had twin filament bulbs.

That should be difficult. Amber bulbs use a different pin offset to clear.

That puts paid to my use of a clear bulb (plus a bit of yellow sweet wrapper) as a makeshift amber bulb if one of my indicator bulbs fails. I'll have to buy a spare amber bulb to go with the spare clear bulb that I carry in the car. I'd better go check my spare bulbs to see what I still have. I know I have a spare headlamp bulb, dating from when my car ate headlamp bulbs about one every six months - until I went for a well-known brand instead of a car spares shop's own brand. Do I still have spare bulbs, I wonder, for tail/brake light and foglight (theoretically also for indicator - until your revelation!).

NY explained on 29/03/2021 :

Mine is all electronic. The switches just 'command' the lighting ECU, so you cannot leave any fog lights on.

NY submitted this idea :

I don't remember any white indicators, except in US cars. I half remember a conversion of the mechanical arm trafficators, where the trafficator slot had a fixed orange sticky out lens mounted over the slot, with a built-in flasher.

My 1957 Austin A35 had orange indicators - and cover plates for where the trafficators would have been !

My 1964 Ford Anglia (~105E) had white light indicators integrated into the front sidelights. A couple of years later, Ford redesigned with separate, orange, indicators just inside the front sidelights

That was the sort of timescale.

PA

Loads of 50s cars in the UK had white/red flashers. Think Ford were the first.

I don't *think* mum's Morris Minor had *flashing* lights in the trafficator arms. I think they were just rather dim permanently-on orange lights (as white bulbs in an orange housing). They worked in conjunction with the flashing indicators front and back, for a couple of years, but eventually jammed and blew a fuse, so dad disconnected the wiring to them.

Don't think flashing bulbs in trafficators were ever factory.

And on your car, the flashing indicators had been added. No factory car had both.

Our Zephyr Zodiac (early 50s) had flashing indicators but they were red at the back and white at the front.

Yes. As a kid, a neighbour was a pilot at a port in the middle east - so away most of the time. On a spell of leave, he arrived in a brand new LHD Mk1 Zodiac - early 50s. With a horn ring and flashing indicators. Think this may have been before the car was available in the UK. I was most impressed. Dad have a very secondhand Morris Minor. Only unusual thing about that was it had a radio. And heater.

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Me neither We had an A35 van c1958 with trafficators and they were orange.

I had a 1959 105E. Honestly can't remember the front indicators.

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