EU to flush your money down your toilet?

[Adrian]

With "they" being the governments of Ireland and the Netherlands, not some mythical eurocrats.

[Tim Streater]

Well, you say that, but what was the reaction of EU bigwigs when the Irish said no? "Oh, we can't have a little country derailing the grand plan" Why d'ye think there are unlikely to be more treaties? Because they know there will be *big* opposition to any more integration, from like, y'know, the *people* (you may have heard of them, they live in little huts, wear smocks, and have straw in their hair).

Thass why the last treaty contained an enabling clause, so these same bigwigs can declare the next step enabled BY ORDER, with none of this pesky consultation nonsense required. Clever, eh?

[John Rumm]

Roll on the EU standard turd

[Tim Streater]

I'd rather not, thanks, if it's all the same to you.

[Huge]

Except that wasn't a vote for the EU, and even that vile blob Heath admitted that he lied.

[The Natural Philosopher]

isn't nigel one of our own?

[Java Jive]

"In the UK, new toilets with more than 6 l/flush are forbidden" - I fear that blocked toilets will soon be a regular feature of the TNP household - 6l is nothing like enough for the amount of shit he produces.

A good reason to vote for an independent Scotland ...

Actually, if the EU want to standardise something, book sizes would be a good place to start. Ever tried to pack a variety of books into a trunk?

[Java Jive]

Link?

Link?

[Java Jive]

They are not are masters.

Sometimes they do, but it's really the media's job to report as such.

[Java Jive]

You may like to think that we do or ought, but your own complaint proves that actually we do not. Perhaps that should be changed for the future, but it's no good complaining about the past.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I find it hard to believe that leaving the EU would improve anything much in our daily lives, and may well make things worse ...

"With a combined population of over 500 million inhabitants,[22] or

7.3% of the world population,[23] the EU in 2012 generated a nominal gross domestic product (GDP) of 16.584 trillion US dollars, constituting approximately 23% of global nominal GDP and 20% when measured in terms of purchasing power parity, which is the largest nominal GDP and GDP PPP in the world."

... why the desire to leave when we are ahead?

Can't disagree with that.

That was a very good change indeed, and long overdue. It stops the Margaret Thatchers of this world allowing the country to be embroiled in a war, winning it, and then seeking re-election on the resulting tide of popularity. That and the independence since of the BoE also make it more difficult for them to manipulate the economy to win a forthcoming election, because the timing of any resulting benefit can never be certain, and it avoids the unnecessary expense of running elections more often at the incumbent PM's whim, because the world economy happens to be being kind to the UK at a particular point in time.

[Java Jive]

Whether or not Heath lied is a little irrelevant, considering Harold Wilson was in power at the time, and surprise, surprise, held the referendum in conformance with a manifesto pledge!

Get real. After all we have to live in the real world, and share it as peaceably and equably as possible with others. If we weren't in the EU, we would still be members of NATO, the UN, various trade agreements, etc. All these are effectively a voluntary reduction in national sovereignty for the sake of living peacefully in a more or less peaceful world. Accession to the EU is no different from that.

[Java Jive]

[Windmill]

Sometimes reduced volumes force one to flush twice.........

[Java Jive]

Link?

I haven't had time to read every word - it's gett>

[Java Jive]

[Java Jive]

:~)

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[harryagain]

Or if that's too hard for you to understand

Are you so thick you can't find this stuff for yourself?

[harryagain]

That is a repair, not maintaenance.

So they're just shit toilets.

[harryagain]

Why shouldn't a government do popular things?

[Adrian]

Some are, yes. Some people do insist on buying the cheapest possible things going, never mind the quality/TCO.